Virginia Was A Setup. Dems Wanted The Violence.

a reply to: Dfairlite

What's disturbing is that there's more planned, and BLM and Antifa are out there, along with Soros' paid protestors already planning the next fiasco.

What a mess.

It is not fair to try to lay it at Trump's feat.

Quite the political dirty trick to try to divide his base and strengthen the anti-Trump opposition.

The right need to form a counter movement, that doesn't attract these white racist nationalists, of which the guy who got the permit wasn't really one at all.

Something really stinks.

Terrible.

Trump got duped really, by not seeing the false flag aspects and how the police held off while a group of people was shepherded through a gauntlet of white racism.

This kind of trumped up nonsense, is ruining the United States. Even the divide is entirely contrived and inauthentic. That's sad.

If I was an American, I'd start getting active in politics, only problem being the damned two party system and the entrenched establishment, who are prepared to go to any lengths to derail the Trump agenda and undermine his authority and power and bring him down.

This isn't the kind of political discourse that's becoming of the once proud Republic.

Once again I blame the Satanists who are just biding their time and agitating to once again wrest power from the Just.

OP and others desperate to find a way to excuse Nazi violence. Any excuse.

People went out and stood up against neoNazi's and white supremacists while these keyboard patriots find a way to blame "leftists". Cowards.

originally posted by: SudoNim
OP and others desperate to find a way to excuse Nazi violence. Any excuse.

People went out and stood up against neoNazi's and white supremacists while these keyboard patriots find a way to blame "leftists". Cowards.

Star for you...yes it is surreal to watch this play out.

a reply to: SudoNim

Nope. Try reading. Try watching the video's.

Or just keep lying to yourself so you can feel comfortable with your belief system.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Keep telling yourself that. It's strange how even after winning the election you try and blame everything on the Dems, isn't Trump in charge now?

Rationalise it anyway you want to make you feel better about supporting a Nazi white supremacy movement.

a reply to: SudoNim

I don't support nazi's or white supremacy. In fact, I loathe nazi's and white supremacists.

a reply to: SudoNim

But please, tell me you don't agree with them.
www.americannaziparty.com...

What do they want?
1) Environmentalism
2) National healthcare
3) Free education
4) Wealth redistribution
5) Public control of banking
6) Interest free loans
7) Confiscation of corporate profits

Hmmmm....

originally posted by: SudoNim
OP and others desperate to find a way to excuse Nazi violence. Any excuse.

People went out and stood up against neoNazi's and white supremacists while these keyboard patriots find a way to blame "leftists". Cowards.

OH M GEE! I completely agree with you. *shudders*

Now for the bonus round. What if a group of folks went to counter a BLM march or an ANTIFA march? Even if they weren't supremacists, would they get labeled as such anyway? Would you feel the same way?

i really do not get this obsession with soros. i wish i could have been paid for some of the protesting i've done, hehe.

tbh the only verified instance i've seen of paid protestors was right-wing....?

before this rally took place I see many hundreds of social media posters that were far from alt right or extreme right

They were just normal rational right wing people that were all saying the same thing, history needs to be preserved

Or they was simply there because they were sick of the leftist liberals crying over everything and getting there own way

I can honestly say, I see absolutely no people in white hoods, no people chanting racist rhetoric,I just see right wing people with protection gear on ready to defend themselves from clear fascist and racist lefties

This looked more like the left were professionally organised to harm the political opposition, because they dont agree or because they was white

I have absolutely no doubt anymore, we are witnessing Nazi type behaviour from the left, everybody can see there are left wing extremists groups that are socialist, communist, racist and want violence or worst

Time to defend yourselves, speak up, and fight back

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: SudoNim

But please, tell me you don't agree with them.
www.americannaziparty.com...

What do they want?
1) Environmentalism
2) National healthcare
3) Free education
4) Wealth redistribution
5) Public control of banking
6) Interest free loans
7) Confiscation of corporate profits

Hmmmm....

I'm confused you went from saying you loathe them to quoting their policies?

Surprisingly none of those reasons listed are the ones which make me anti-Nazi.

Do I really have to explain to you why Nazi's are bad? Christ, you are slow today.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: SudoNim
OP and others desperate to find a way to excuse Nazi violence. Any excuse.

People went out and stood up against neoNazi's and white supremacists while these keyboard patriots find a way to blame "leftists". Cowards.

OH M GEE! I completely agree with you. *shudders*

Now for the bonus round. What if a group of folks went to counter a BLM march or an ANTIFA march? Even if they weren't supremacists, would they get labeled as such anyway? Would you feel the same way?

It happens sometimes.

I'm not quite sure I get your follow up question. Would I feel the same way if people stood up to BLM or ANTIFA? If thats the question, then the answer is no, not quite. While I don't always agree with BLM and ANTIFA messages and methods they are not the same as the KKK or Nazi's.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
before this rally took place I see many hundreds of social media posters that were far from alt right or extreme right

They were just normal rational right wing people that were all saying the same thing, history needs to be preserved

Or they was simply there because they were sick of the leftist liberals crying over everything and getting there own way

I can honestly say, I see absolutely no people in white hoods, no people chanting racist rhetoric,I just see right wing people with protection gear on ready to defend themselves from clear fascist and racist lefties

This looked more like the left were professionally organised to harm the political opposition, because they dont agree or because they was white

I have absolutely no doubt anymore, we are witnessing Nazi type behaviour from the left, everybody can see there are left wing extremists groups that are socialist, communist, racist and want violence or worst

Time to defend yourselves, speak up, and fight back

Group of Nazi's turn up, waving Nazi flags, chanting Nazi songs... labelling themselves Nazis and you somehow come to the conclusion that those who protested against them were the Nazi's?

You are deluded.

originally posted by: SudoNim
Group of Nazi's turn up, waving Nazi flags, chanting Nazi songs... labelling themselves Nazis and you somehow come to the conclusion that those who protested against them were the Nazi's?

You are deluded.

AMEN

a reply to: SudoNim

Because they sure sound a lot like you. Are you a nazi? Or a nazi sympathizer?

a reply to: SudoNim

Group of Nazi's turn up, waving Nazi flags, chanting Nazi songs... labelling themselves Nazis and you somehow come to the conclusion that those who protested against them were the Nazi's?

You are deluded.

it appears to be the protocol doesn't it.
wonder if bannon sent a memo out?
if anyone says nazis are bad call them a nazi.

a reply to: growler

I mean why not ignore syntax. Are only nazi's capable of nazi behavior?

Here's the quote: "I have absolutely no doubt anymore, we are witnessing Nazi type behaviour from the left" (emphasis mine)

You guys are so disingenuous it's going to be glorious to watch your ideas (or lack thereof TBH) get crushed in the 2018 elections.

a reply to: Dfairlite>>> I'm glad we can get some rational discussion of this horrible event. Its just insane and I won't make any excuses to the neo Nazis/ white separatist who drove his car and killed that woman. I've come down hard on antifa and BLM when they acted just as badly and criminally. But some things have been overlooked by the MSM and once again they went gangbusters to politicize this event and to spin it to their own ends and ignored much of what really happened. One, you had two crowds looking to cause trouble and to lash out at others. Shame on both. Virginia is a backwards state, look at their sorry criminal excuse for a governor. Its the worst of two worlds. Political corruption, liberal knuckledraggers and redneck racists. They played up two police officers dying as a result of the protest, but they never said how or why their helicopter crashed which was an ACCIDENT. Then they tried to blame Trump for these being his supporters and then for his not condemning them enough. He condemned the violence, there is no pleasing the MSM and their bias against him. Then the partisan whack job ultra liberal sites joined the MSM is trying yet again to say that hate groups are on the rise again. That was a lie back when they said it when Obama was elected, its a lie now. The Southern Poverty Law Center was front and center and they are just not a credible source. Look at them and you have to dismiss much of what they claim. We're being played again by those wanting to separate us and to divide us. They used Obama( he was willingly a party to it) to do it and now they want to use Trump to do it, although he's the target and not in on it.

a reply to: Dutchowl

It's actually history repeating itself. It's left wing nazi socialists fighting left wing communists. This is basically 1920's Germany on a tiny scale.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: growler

I mean why not ignore syntax. Are only nazi's capable of nazi behavior?

Here's the quote: "I have absolutely no doubt anymore, we are witnessing Nazi type behaviour from the left" (emphasis mine)

You guys are so disingenuous it's going to be glorious to watch your ideas (or lack thereof TBH) get crushed in the 2018 elections.

we don't have an election till 2022 unless theresa may has another brainfart.

but no, i can't see any nazi behaviour from this left that upsets you.
blm trying to raise awareness of inequality isn't exactly the final solution and protesting a rally is hardly annexing the sudetenland.

you should check out labour's manifesto to get an idea of where others stand politically.
granted the ideas presented would cause democrats to have a heart attack while their final words would be pinko scum but, it would give an insight into actual left wing policies.

i agree that the democrats will lose big style however, rather than bring anything to the table they appear to be keeping their fingers crossed hoping mueller finds something, not the best political option.