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Originally posted by Gazrok
That's just it though...they don't WANT freedom. Have you ever lived in the middle east? I have. They will be perfectly content with a zealous theocracy. Democracy doesn't mesh well with them. Here in the west, religion is pretty much a separate and more personal thing. With them, it isn't just a PART of their life, religion IS their life. It's an important difference that people in the west must realize in order to understand them.
Even if Iran and Afghanistan were to suddenly and magically be stabilized tomorrow, we've still got the issue with the rhetoric directed at Iran and it's alleged nuke weapons program, as well as that directed to North Korea for it's attempts to go nuclear as well. There's rhetoric towards Syria as well. So, we've got a President who has stated his goal of spreading democracy in the middle east, QUITE plainly in his speeches, directing rhetoric to sovereign middle eastern states. Bush's father was a foreign policy genius (with the exception of not knowing which direction to puke), but Dubya seems content to simply stir up the hornets' nests with no particular resolve to complete the job.
Still, quite a departure from the original thread, so I'll get back on track....
I'll keep looking for more info about this "attack". By the way, for those unfamiliar with this...the "blackout" wasn't caused by the UFO, but it is a tactic used in cities back in the days before night vision, thermal imaging, laser targetting, etc. to make it harder for bombers to see their targets....
EDIT: Another good link on this, with more description of the object as described by witnesses...
"They sent fighter planes up and I watched them in groups approach it and then turn away. There were shooting at it but it didn't seem to matter."
"I'll never forget what a magnificent sight it was. Just marvelous. And what a gorgeous color!", she said
[edit on 9-2-2005 by Gazrok]
Originally posted by Long Lance
If it was all in their heads, what was absorbing the light beams then?
Originally posted by V Kaminski
I still find this one interesting. Some of the data interpretation can be fudged either way. But "something" did happen, serious enough for the order to fire to be given by the military and executed by soldiers.
Hysteria, OK, a bit, or maybe not so much. But they felt sure enough to puts lots of balistic metal in the air. You just don't fire over a major population center without reason and orders. The military made the decision... right or wrong? Helpful/hurtful... we may just find out in many of our lifetime's... we may be in for either a pleasant surprise or something "other" perhaps less pleasant. I hope not.
Thing that gets me is that these days UFOs are mostly reported in the sky's as fast moving, high maneuverability get outta here machines. My big concern is why is this vehicle advanced enough to stop AA rounds etc only traveling at something like 25 miles per hour? Also if it did cause such a big hoo haa then why was it merely left to drift out of sight, with no further tracing or pursuit?