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I forwarded your email to our photo librarian and here is her response:
" The credit on the page was just "Times photo" which was typical in those
days. I can't locate the original photograph - and it may or may not have had the actual name of the photographer on the back. So, all we can say is it was a Times photo."
Sorry I couldn't be more of a help.
Deputy Director of Photography
Los Angeles Times
202 W. 1st Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
800-LA-TIMES x75321/213-237-5321 (work)
Originally posted by Gazrok
Just as an FYI, heard back from the Times about the photographer...unfortunately, no name...
Originally posted by Asia Minor
We got the critiques in here too? It isn't a painting.
Anti-aircraft batteries also were firing on other, smaller objects flying in the vicinity. According to one of the witnesses there was a formation of six to nine white and luminous objects flying in triangular formation.
Up to 25 silvery UFOs were also seen by observers on the ground. Editor Peter Jenkins of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner reported, "I could clearly see the V formation of about 25 silvery planes overhead moving slowly across the sky toward Long Beach."
The observation of Long Beach Police Chief J.H. McClelland: "I watched what was described as the second wave of planes from atop the seven-story Long Beach City Hall. I did not see any planes but the younger men with me said they could. An experienced Navy observer with powerful Carl Zeiss binoculars said he counted nine planes in the cone of the searchlight. He said they were silver in color.
US Navy Secretary Frank Knox stated that there had been no planes in the sky over Los Angeles and that the anti-aircraft fire was used as a result of a false alarm.
Another witness, who lived near 185th and Vermont, reported to see a plane crash in the vicinity of her house. She could add that debris from the crashed plane was very quickly removed by the soldiers who also cleaned up the whole crash site.
On the first page there was stated that "foreign" aircraft had been in the air and that: "At 5 a.m., the sheriff's office announced that an airplane has been shot down near 185th Street and Vermont Avenue. Earlier, the Fourth Air Force in San Francisco said that at least one plane had been downed in the raid."
As far as I'm concerned, that's not a picture of a UFO. It's our minds playing tricks on us after nearly sixty years of flying saucer pictures.
After the firing started, careful observation was difficult because of drifting smoke from shell bursts; yet it was a clear weather night. The acting commander of the anti-aircraft artillery brigade in the area testified that he had first been convinced that he had seen fifteen planes in the air, but had quickly decided that he was seeing smoke.
On December 8, 1941 at 6:00 PM, the first air-raid warning of the night was sounded when air invaders were first detected 100 miles due west of the Golden Gate. First reparts stated that there were 50 planes but later reports gave a smaller number. They were thought tobe planes from a carriet Some of them were thought to have entered the Bay Area and headed southwest.The next night San Francisco underwent two alarms, the first at 1:45 AM,and then again at 2:02 AM. A Uackout was called for and almost immediately planes were heard in the sky all roundthe Bay Area. Another alert came at4:05 AM. Lt. General John L. DeWitt warned that there was a real attack by enemy planes and that California should be prepared. Wednesday December 10, 1941, allof Southern California and the area from Las Vegas to Boulder Coloradowere blacked out shortly after 8 PM. Anti-aircraft gunners were put on alert. Invading planes were reported in the Los Angeles area and south ofthe city. One of the longest blackouts of the war came on December 12th, at 7:20PM. Invading planes were first detected offshore; the first reports came from San Mateo. Invisible, they could be heard as they roared low over the tall buildings inSan Francisco' business district. Many reports during the blackouts were from people who heard planes overhead and assumed they were either Japanese planes or our own planes inpursuit. We know they were not ourplanes. If they were not Japanese planes, Wednesday December 10,1941, all of Southern California and the area from Las Vegas to Boulder Colorado were blacked outshortly after 8 PM. Anti-aircraft gunners were put on alert. Invading planes were reported in the Los Angeles area and south of the city.
No, I'm not saying they were firing at nothing. There were many, many reports that night of groups of aircraft flying overhead. Marshall's report even mentioned aircraft. Maybe there is an aircraft where those beams converge but the film got saturated with all that light from the timed exposure.
The only place that 15 planes could have come from was an aircraft carrier. A thorough search of the waters off the coast, however, revealed nothing. When confronted with this technical detail, Stimson asserted that the planes may have been "enemy agents flying commercial planes to demoralize civilians, disclose anti-aircraft positions and the effectiveness of blackouts." This version of events had the added benefit of explaining why no bombs were dropped.
No sooner had Stimson come out with the Army's statement than Navy Secretary Frank Knox, when asked about the raid, contradicted his opposite number. "There were no planes over Los Angeles last night," he said; the whole thing was "a false alarm."