Entire solar system is heating up! Scientists blame solar warming

Its worth looking at. Any honest science will consider this as well as possible co2 issues and other factors. The "scientific consensus" on global warming causes is a false one perpetrated for political purposes. However, that doesnt mean co2 has no effect either. It may be that climate changes are being pushed by a variety of factors, or that climate change itself has been exaggerated.

Real science looks at all these factors and establishes tests for its hypotheses.

I'm surprised Mr Gore has not realised the amount of heat generated by seven billion humans, that is 100 watts per hour of heat, per human, so that is seven hundred billion watts of heat per hour, is that right ?
Then there is the heat generated by animals, and birds, internal combustion engines, jet engines, trucks, locomotives, just how is it with all this heat, there has been no discernible rise in mean global temperatures for the last 18 years ?
Well, not according to the news/weather/science sites that pop into my inbox anyway.

a reply to: pirhanna

Agreed. This is as rational as any other idea on how the earth temp has risen between .4 and .6 degrees C since 1880.

a reply to: seasonal
Astronomers have been saying this for much earlier than 2015. No one has been listening. Well except a few. The MMGW crowd have to follow their newly formed climatologists who only use records from the 20th Century on. They dont realize there are true sciences out there that go back millions of years .

a reply to: Gothmog

True, there are those who focus on co2, and only co2. But the world, solar system and galaxy are huge places that are very complicated.

The .4 to .6 degrees C that the earth has supposedly heated up could very well be a normal and natural variation in a much bigger cycle.


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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Gothmog

True, there are those who focus on co2, and only co2. But the world, solar system and galaxy are huge places that are very complicated.

The .4 to .6 degrees C that the earth has supposedly heated up could very well be a normal and natural variation in a much bigger cycle.


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It is. Since the 90s the sun has been in a gradual warming . Mars polar caps disappeared along with the Great Red Spot on Jupiter. And other events that have been attributed to the sun's heating. Just think , millions of years in the future the sun will have expanded to a size that completely engulfs the Earth . Now that is Global Warming...

a reply to: Sublimecraft

2%....?
For the first year, maybe.

there was a thread with this link here a while back. principia-scientific.org...

20 New Science Papers Find Climate Is Driven By Solar Changes

....did I just see ATS being used as a...NEWS SOURCE!?

Holy hell, it must be true, that would mean Nibiru, the Moon Landing, Nuclear Weapons, Earth is flat, Stars cannot be seen in outer space and everything else on this site IS TRUE!!!

OH ME GAWD....

Please tell me this is a gag thread, as all the "sources" that have been posted has already been discredited and refuted in the past years.

This cannot be for real.

originally posted by: Gothmog
They dont realize there are true sciences out there that go back millions of years .

Doesn't really make sense, true sciences, mankind hasn't been around in a historically recorded way for more than 10s of thousands of years at best, and evolutionarily in our current heritage for more than a few hundred thousands.

So whats all this science that climatologists are unaware of? Tree rings? Ice cores? because, yeah they are well aware of those. They are not as ignorant as you might suggest...

It is. Since the 90s the sun has been in a gradual warming . Mars polar caps disappeared along with the Great Red Spot on Jupiter. And other events that have been attributed to the sun's heating. Just think , millions of years in the future the sun will have expanded to a size that completely engulfs the Earth . Now that is Global Warming...

Hmmm again
even a lazy look around the internet will show you that, A) the Mars polar caps are still doing well, and B the Great Red Spot on Jupiter is still there too.

The motto on ATS is "deny ignorance", not "talk directly from your bottom."

a reply to: ErosA433

a reply to: seasonal

What I find funny is people still take you seriously... you create thread after thread on this subject. Each time someone comes in an exposes your sources for being blog pieces/manipulating chart data or flat out lieing.

You already posted this in www.abovetopsecret.com... (which you abandoned because it was debunked) did you really need to create its own thread considering the source in questions references yet another ATS thread.

Its about time some quality control comes in and bans trolls like you from spamming the same rubbish.

a reply to: SudoNim

Its about time some quality control comes in and bans trolls like you from spamming the same rubbish.

Yeah , you got that right. Some folks should not cast stones...

a reply to: SudoNim

Your opinions are noted. thank you for your response.

Well how are we going to curb carbon emissions in the solar system? Sounds like we need some intergalactic tax credit systems in place.

Next thing you know, we'll have the 3rd installment of Al Gore's global warming "documentary" on the melting polar icecaps of Mars.

The whole world is working furiously on alternative energy solutions for the masses. Soon the combustion engine and burning fossil fuels will be history.

I am not even going to bother reading this even the title is wrong .
lets say the Solar out put increases by 1% The difference in the amount of energy each planet receives will be .001 %
ps the solar out put jumps 1% the sun will become so unstable solar flares out the wazzo and more heat will be teh least of earths problems as the solar wind strips the very atmosphere from our world the first to go the ozone layer .

after that you wont be worried about how hot it is .
The solar out goes up and down by .001 % and even that small change is enough to create massive flares .
So no the solar system is NOT heating up to any % that we could register .

long Ice ages well one of two things going on there . One a time of greater volcanic activity more dust blocks more sun light .
two a cloud in space ( or in tearms you understand a nebula ( mostly just dust ) the solar system goes through one it would take 20000 years to get to the other side means wile the suns light is reduced and ice age .

Ps the dust partials contractions has be going up in the solar system btw at this point not enough to matter .

Lord if teh sun was acting up enough to cause a 3 to 5 % tem spike we may as well kiss earth good by .

a reply to: seasonal

Possibly something to do with our solar system passing through a more active region of the galactic plane?

Then again i think astronomers have determined that were currently moving away from, not toward the galactic plane.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Never happen whilst we are we are dependant on oil and gas considering there is profit to be had.

Free energy or even very cheap energy made available to the masses would equate to less control both politically and economically hence the reason we have been dependent on the internal combustion engine for the past 100 years or so.

Fusion power may materialise quite soon via a more efficient Tokamak design but don't expect it to be miniaturised or made available any more than current fission reaction technologies.

a reply to: Gothmog

It is. Since the 90s the sun has been in a gradual warming .

Wrong.

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system

It is curious that the theory depends so much on sparse information – what we know about the climates on other planets and their history – yet its proponents resolutely ignore the most compelling evidence against the notion. Over the last fifty years, the sun’s output has decreased slightly: it is radiating less heat. We can measure the various activities of the sun pretty accurately from here on Earth, or from orbit above it, so it is hard to ignore the discrepancy between the facts and the sceptical argument that the sun is causing the rise in temperatures.

Mars polar caps disappeared along with the Great Red Spot on Jupiter. And other events that have been attributed to the sun's heating.

I guess you missed the debunking of these ideas that was posted by jRod above. Since you did I'll post a shorter summary from the article I quoted above...

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

• Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all.
  
• Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
  
• Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increased solar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
  
• Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climate change consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.
  

Notice that last sentence in the Pluto item. If Pluto is warming due to (non-existent, but lets pretend for a moment) increased solar output then Mercury would already be vaporized, and we would already be dead. Sheesh.