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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Vorian
Listen, there is still freedom of speech. This isn't the first time there has been a nazi or kkk march.
But most of the time sane people ignore it and they don't get any attention.
That didn't happen this time, and those people who you claim were there to day they werent welcome weren't welcome either.
These were all outsiders.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Vorian
You're psychic?
Or are you hooked in with some group whose purpose it was to make sure that people died?
If they were left alone to rant and say their piece, how do you know that things would get violent?
Simple answer is that you don't.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Vorian
You're psychic?
Or are you hooked in with some group whose purpose it was to make sure that people died?
If they were left alone to rant and say their piece, how do you know that things would get violent?
Simple answer is that you don't.
Because the town is mostly a Democratic Voting town who voted 80% in favor of Hillary Clinton. Then a bunch of Right Wing and White Supremacy Groups come to THEIR TOWN marching with torches the night before and rallying in the morning telling them they can't take down a statue. IN THEIR OWN TOWN of majority Left Leaning People.
That's why you know it will get violent.
Rather than side with the Nationalist Groups maybe they should have stayed home and let the people of that town do what they want with a statue in their home town. The Right Wingers didn't have to go there and start trouble.
You say "Well just let the Demonstrators do their thing and ignore them. Well why don't the Demonstrators just let the town do their thing and ignore them instead???
The Right Wingers didn't have to go there and start trouble.
originally posted by: Vorian
a reply to: ketsuko
Not what I was saying at all. You miss the point. But m0j0m described it perfectly.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Vorian
Its a college town in the summer. Most of the students aren't there.
And yes they vote Democrat, but you just conveniently gloss over that I live an hour and a half away. I go there regularly, I know this area. If we disagree with something we'll say it, we won't vandalize our own community in some temper tantrum because someone said something we don't like.
Thank you for preaching to me about the ideology of my own community, I'll go off of what I already know from living here.
Check out the Charlottesville reddit, most of the locals on their stayed home or left town.
Why would students at one of the best universities around risk expulsion for arguing with dumbasses? Everyone agrees nazis are bad, so why fight them or even act like anyone is listening?
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: mOjOm
The Right Wingers didn't have to go there and start trouble.
Right Wingers didn't go there. Psychotic people with no real political ideology went there.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Vorian
So they lose their right to assemble and speak because you don't like what they're saying?
Let's be clear. I don't like white supremacists either, but you either believe in free speech or you don't. And that includes all speech, even the worst of it.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: luthier
Yeah, but groups like this one don't have a history of rioting in a vacuum.