originally posted by: QueenofWeird
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
It is all digital universe /simulation. There is one level up at least. Like a story and its author.
Are you suggesting that all the stars and galaxies are.. lying? Why such a large simulation?
I've dome some research into the sacred geometrical design properties of all existence and have arrived at the conclusion that certain configurations
were programmed right from the origin of creation by anticipation and with intent, beginning with the end in mind.
That's a very tightly controlled program and fine-point spacetime control across the entire cosmos in time and history, as opposed to some sort of
random occurance, which doesn't even begin to explain it.
I guess the point I'm getting to, is that if you start with nothing, and then you have all this design at the micro and macro levels, it doesn't
matter what you call it, whether a simulation or a contrived reality, it's still a type of designed program or game that starts out with a vesical
Pisces and the flower of life.
Here's what I think, as a spin on your idea of our place and role in the creation, as directed from a higher level re: a simulation.
Consider that whether you believe in the big bang or not, we are right now sandwiched in eternity, between two eternities.
Now, consider this from the POV of a creator, looking for the optimal breakout point by which to be something instead of nothing and to generate the
framework within which to enjoy a shared experience amid the illusion of a self-forgetting that's also a future self-remembering, kind of like what I
described in my earlier reply to you where we come to that same place that Jesus did when he said "love them, as you loved me from before the
foundation of the world". It's a rational and logical outcome or byproduct of this whole premise, where the apparently solipsistic aspect, except in
so far as it's a universal principal, is that we were made contain and to comingle with this higher intelligence (like a type of spiritual food of
some kind) or what Christians call the Spirit, which is also the same "Person" as the son and the first father of all creation, as the game designer,
but at a more intimate level since the basis of the relationship can only be found in the present moment and in eternity, as our "already always"
present moment felt experience and as our TRUE condition
so there's nothing..... for an eternity, and then... lo and beyond here we are, as characters in the game, by intent and with anticipation and the
finest design there ever was as an expression of the original impulse or whim to create.
You'd run an endless series of simulations outside of time, since time is nothing but the process and the manifestation itself, but nevertheless, an
eternity could very easily represent a rather longggggggg no-time time.
finding an endless series of universes that flop, then fine tuning to an infinite degree, the cosmological constant and all the laws of physics, from
simulation to simulation until, at long last..... ah HA! Then, with the option to create, or not to create, you might even sit on it for a while, to
fully consider all the implications and the risks involved ie: in the loss of the self in an annihilation that remains forever self-forgetting...
And what to do with these human beings, who are fearfully made to stand right next to the Godhead and thus stand in a very precarious position subject
to a great fall, maybe when their kundalini rises to form a crown or some such thing, only to see them declare themselves as God and kick the Creator
or the Father straight out of the equation, when the desire was to share it all with a close friend and "child" in the first place, or the game loses
And then it dawns on you. Ah HA, I will make a way for myself to take on a character, in human form as the perfect model of authentic leadership and
in so doing, sow into the creation and the fated wedge of the game, the means by which to retain and preserve and protect, everything that's
worthwhile, including the very REASON for creation in the first place, where it could be said that everything was made by the father in and through
the son (as a first cause and reason), because of love. This was done in order to save us from ourselves, if not also from the evil one (whoever or
whatever that might be - bad aliens working at enmity with God?), and to triumph in the battle between good and evil amid a universal controversy
surrounding the issue of freedom and of universal authority.
Could it all have been won by a little man here of all places...? who indeed was sent, even as he sends us in kind?
Call it a simulation or the sim of all sims if you like, it makes no difference when we're talking about a domain of felt experience and of reason and
logic, and above all, love.
The truth of Christianity (put this one in your pipe and smoke it) is that we've been protected, from ourselves and from any power or principality
which might undermine God's own plan and design, maybe even out of jealousy, not unlike the elder brother in the parable of the Prodigal Son.
A game hack was inserted, to make sure that we could not end up in a position where we'd be left forever orphaned when the desire and intent was
something a little more joyful and celebratory in the koinonia or the intimate, participatory sharing, as that between a husband and a wife or of a
brotherly or sisterly fellowship, at a table, with food, sharing laughs and stories and good times and bad times.
The trouble with all this, given the magnitude of the creation (which is really there, even if it's all an elaborate sim), is the apparent solipsism
of what I'm proposing, because within the context of a non-local, holographic universe, such a thing or event needn't happen anywhere else and at any
However, if could be a case where "the last shall be first, and the first, last", in which case the joke isn't only on us alone, but at any and all
who come not to serve, but to be served.
It could be enough to topple and set right the true authority of all empires and monarchies from here to kingdom come, when the King Himself makes an
appearance and does something and teaches and communicates something here on Earth, of all places, via the relativity of human being.
This is a very amuzing and funny even hilarious proposition, no matter what you're point of view, and because it's also so satisfying and joy filled,
it might even be enough to calm the nerves of restless natives, wherever they may reside.
This world cannot and is not the source of evil in the universe, that's not the endgame either.
So it is in this sense that the beast (whoever or whatever or wherever that might be) is thrown down upon the earth, chained up (with a chain of
evidence), and tossed headlong into the abyss (which means oblivion).
There is nothing irrational or unreasonable about any of this, no matter how far fetched or "absurd" it might appear to be.
Thus, the very highest height of Virtue might be thought of as power, restrained.
"And what is bound on earth, is bound in heaven also - let all with ears (or their equivalent) to hear, let them hear!
So I think there lurks a game triumph and a big boss defeat and a wonderful surprise, praise God the Gamemaker!
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