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The Definition of Fascism -- Who What Where and How they reDefined it

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posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Its not the left or right but the Emperor of the World - why else would the Fasces be on all seals and regalia of the US and above the podium in the House?

You Americans are so funny, thinking you have a 2 party system. We're not much better - we still have a Lieutenant General appointed by the Queen ER II that can get rid of our, cough, cough "democratically" elected Government.

She shares Power with the Pope - Washington is the military arm of the unholy alliance - Rome London Washington

All Roads Lead to Rome
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fascism is alive and well in the US since the founding fathers




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
*sigh*


I don't see how this is such a hard concept for some.

The right say they are for freedom but they are not always for it and they should be called out on that. Is that such a hard concept for you?



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

And above the Governments is the Beast - The Rothschilds Family



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: DBCowboy
*sigh*


I don't see how this is such a hard concept for some.

The right say they are for freedom but they are not always for it and they should be called out on that. Is that such a hard concept for you?


Of course not, silly person.

Freedom isn't ideological.

freedom just "is".

Now some ideologies don't like freedom, but they are usually filled with mental cowards with tiny balls.




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen


A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State. It is quite logical for a new doctrine to make use of the still vital elements of other doctrines. No doctrine was ever born quite new and bright and unheard of. No doctrine can boast absolute originality. It is always connected, it only historically, with those which preceded it and those which will follow it. Thus the scientific socialism of Marx links up to the utopian socialism of the Fouriers, the Owens, the Saint-Simons ; thus the liberalism of the XIXth century traces its origin back to the illuministic movement of the XVIIIth, and the doctrines of democracy to those of the Encyclopaedists. All doctrines aim at directing the activities of men towards a given objective; but these activities in their turn react on the doctrine, modifying and adjusting it to new needs, or outstripping it. A doctrine must therefore be a vital act and not a verbal display. Hence the pragmatic strain in Fascism, it’s will to power, its will to live, its attitude toward violence, and its value.

Source: Mussolini himself.

Xuen, are you going to keep making the same threads?


Fantastic !!

A long "quote" with no source link(s) at all !!


I quoted and linked to source in one of your duplicate threads. You have short memory.
Here's the link:
www.worldfuturefund.org...


Left Wing "Sources" and "Opinions" with no proof !!


Are you a troll? Mussolini wrote that.


Are you 100% certain ?

Start sourcing and see the real deal.


The source is from Mussolini himself. You can purchase his book if you can read Italian.


Links ?

Sources ?

I though not.




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen


A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State. It is quite logical for a new doctrine to make use of the still vital elements of other doctrines. No doctrine was ever born quite new and bright and unheard of. No doctrine can boast absolute originality. It is always connected, it only historically, with those which preceded it and those which will follow it. Thus the scientific socialism of Marx links up to the utopian socialism of the Fouriers, the Owens, the Saint-Simons ; thus the liberalism of the XIXth century traces its origin back to the illuministic movement of the XVIIIth, and the doctrines of democracy to those of the Encyclopaedists. All doctrines aim at directing the activities of men towards a given objective; but these activities in their turn react on the doctrine, modifying and adjusting it to new needs, or outstripping it. A doctrine must therefore be a vital act and not a verbal display. Hence the pragmatic strain in Fascism, it’s will to power, its will to live, its attitude toward violence, and its value.

Source: Mussolini himself.

Xuen, are you going to keep making the same threads?


Fantastic !!

A long "quote" with no source link(s) at all !!


I quoted and linked to source in one of your duplicate threads. You have short memory.
Here's the link:
www.worldfuturefund.org...


Left Wing "Sources" and "Opinions" with no proof !!


Are you a troll? Mussolini wrote that.


Are you 100% certain ?

Start sourcing and see the real deal.


The source is from Mussolini himself. You can purchase his book if you can read Italian.


Links ?

Sources ?

I though not.


According to your logic the Founding Fathers didn't write the Constitution.
Grats.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: xuenchen

Its not the left or right but the Emperor of the World - why else would the Fasces be on all seals and regalia of the US and above the podium in the House?

You Americans are so funny, thinking you have a 2 party system. We're not much better - we still have a Lieutenant General appointed by the Queen ER II that can get rid of our, cough, cough "democratically" elected Government.

She shares Power with the Pope - Washington is the military arm of the unholy alliance - Rome London Washington

All Roads Lead to Rome
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fascism is alive and well in the US since the founding fathers


By Jove, you might be on to something !!




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen


A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State. It is quite logical for a new doctrine to make use of the still vital elements of other doctrines. No doctrine was ever born quite new and bright and unheard of. No doctrine can boast absolute originality. It is always connected, it only historically, with those which preceded it and those which will follow it. Thus the scientific socialism of Marx links up to the utopian socialism of the Fouriers, the Owens, the Saint-Simons ; thus the liberalism of the XIXth century traces its origin back to the illuministic movement of the XVIIIth, and the doctrines of democracy to those of the Encyclopaedists. All doctrines aim at directing the activities of men towards a given objective; but these activities in their turn react on the doctrine, modifying and adjusting it to new needs, or outstripping it. A doctrine must therefore be a vital act and not a verbal display. Hence the pragmatic strain in Fascism, it’s will to power, its will to live, its attitude toward violence, and its value.

Source: Mussolini himself.

Xuen, are you going to keep making the same threads?


Fantastic !!

A long "quote" with no source link(s) at all !!


I quoted and linked to source in one of your duplicate threads. You have short memory.
Here's the link:
www.worldfuturefund.org...


Left Wing "Sources" and "Opinions" with no proof !!


Are you a troll? Mussolini wrote that.


Are you 100% certain ?

Start sourcing and see the real deal.


The source is from Mussolini himself. You can purchase his book if you can read Italian.


Links ?

Sources ?

I though not.


According to your logic the Founding Fathers didn't write the Constitution.
Grats.


What !!

Well that's news !!

Got any "Sources" ?



p.s. Christopher Columbus may have been a made-up character.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen


A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State. It is quite logical for a new doctrine to make use of the still vital elements of other doctrines. No doctrine was ever born quite new and bright and unheard of. No doctrine can boast absolute originality. It is always connected, it only historically, with those which preceded it and those which will follow it. Thus the scientific socialism of Marx links up to the utopian socialism of the Fouriers, the Owens, the Saint-Simons ; thus the liberalism of the XIXth century traces its origin back to the illuministic movement of the XVIIIth, and the doctrines of democracy to those of the Encyclopaedists. All doctrines aim at directing the activities of men towards a given objective; but these activities in their turn react on the doctrine, modifying and adjusting it to new needs, or outstripping it. A doctrine must therefore be a vital act and not a verbal display. Hence the pragmatic strain in Fascism, it’s will to power, its will to live, its attitude toward violence, and its value.

Source: Mussolini himself.

Xuen, are you going to keep making the same threads?


Fantastic !!

A long "quote" with no source link(s) at all !!


I quoted and linked to source in one of your duplicate threads. You have short memory.
Here's the link:
www.worldfuturefund.org...


Left Wing "Sources" and "Opinions" with no proof !!


Are you a troll? Mussolini wrote that.


Are you 100% certain ?

Start sourcing and see the real deal.


The source is from Mussolini himself. You can purchase his book if you can read Italian.


Links ?

Sources ?

I though not.


According to your logic the Founding Fathers didn't write the Constitution.
Grats.


What !!

Well that's news !!

Got any "Sources" ?



p.s. Christopher Columbus may have been a made-up character.


Maybe according to you. Maybe Hitler and Mussolini never existed. Maybe the Holocaust didn't happen.
Mind blown!



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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President Franklin Roosevelt, April 29, 1938


To the Congress:

Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people.

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.

This concentration is seriously impairing the economic effectiveness of private enterprise as a way of providing employment for labor and capital and as a way of assuring a more equitable distribution of income and earnings among the people of the nation as a whole.

SOURCE

What does he know though, right? I mean he was only the U.S. President during WWll.

He also instituted those socialist, anti-freedom, ideas in the new deal.

It's safe to say that there are some in America today who would absolutely hate Roosevelt and his policies.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

I do know through my wifes Italian grandmother that they hid their gold underground during Mussolinnis "tenure"
Guess who else confiscated gold in 1933, a democratically elected President.

And not that it matters as they're all crooks (remember bailing out the Banks?) but he was a democrat hahaha

Dont you just love those 2 meaningless words Democrat Republican? They are convenient labels that give you the illusion of freedom or that you may hang onto your hard earned money or gold or guns - until they come for them. They confiscated our guns but that didnt matter because we have always been a slave colony. Most Aussies arent well versed in these matters - they buy the bullsnip just like 90% of the US citizens.


en.wikipedia.org...
Executive Order 6102


Executive Order 6102 is a United States presidential executive order signed on April 5, 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt "forbidding the Hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States". The effect of the order, in conjunction with the statute under which it was issued, was to criminalize the possession of monetary gold by any individual, partnership, association or corporation.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The thread isn't about freedom outside of ideologies. It is about the OP trying to say one side is for freedom and the other side is against it.

Both sides are against it. The "american left" is for bigger government so there is never anything to argue there.

The "american right" is for bigger government as well but they act like they are not. That is what I'm usually pointing out, not because I feel the left is any better but because they don't try to hide it.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

wow who knew, Prez Lincon learned off 20th Cent Europe

www.huffingtonpost.com...


Lincoln enacted the first income tax and the first draft, and supported internal improvements and nationalizing banks. Such centralizing, socialistic, and militaristic restructuring of America was certainly more comparable to the fascism that defined Hitler’s Germany than the agrarian-based economies and loose-knit state militias that defined the Confederate States of America.

edit on 11-8-2017 by TheConstruKctionofLight because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

And George Washington signed a law to implement a tax that would drive down the competition from distillers in the western states and even gave the large distilleries in the eastern states an exemption on that tax.

If "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." then the US has been fascist from the start. And these are the good old days classic liberals want to return to.


edit on 11-8-2017 by daskakik because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Look at the Fasces in your Seals - you're brighter than that.




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

George Orwells Animal Farm no longer required reading at school? I'm glad we were forced to read it.



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

El Duce, Gauleiter of Lombardy himself, is a pretty good source.



Yes, madam, I am finished. My star has fallen. I have no fight left in me. I work and I try, yet know that all is but a farce... I await the end of the tragedy and – strangely detached from everything – I do not feel any more an actor. I feel I am the last of spectators

The twilight of Italian fascism

What a fcking psychopath of a sociopath. Wait, isn't it spelled socialpath? You're the expert here, enlighten me!





posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




If the National Socialist Party is Socialist, then you must think that the Democratic Republic of the Congo or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Republics


Are your eyes shut when your Republic has Fasces all over their Seals. and in the House? even the Lincoln memorial

You're spot on and accurate about Hitler though...thanks

en.wikipedia.org...



The party emerged from the German nationalist, racist, and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany.[6] The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[7] Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[8]



posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: SoulSurfer




You are seeing an all out attack by the new world order and it is very effective


!!!!!!!!!!! THIS!!!!!




posted on Aug, 11 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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The fasces is an ancient national symbol, dating from the Roman period, that symbolized a magistrates power coming from the people, and that a nation is stronger collectively than separately.

Many nations used it for this purpose before Mussolini's Fascists.
edit on 11-8-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



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