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Prison Guard Romance

A female prison guard has been exposed having a romantic relationship with Peter Madsen. She's now been fired.


Fängelsevakt inledde relation med Madsen (in Swedish)

a reply to: Hellmutt

Interesting update, made me think, is there a law against this? If not should there be? I feel like this person should be charged with... well making him happier, he is there to be punished not to have romantic relationships. Any prison guard that strikes up a romantic relationship with an inmate can be charged with Obstruction of Punishment with a fine (the cost to incarcerate the prisoner) for each day it is determined the relationship went on for. Yeah!

a reply to: Dae

Apparently, killers are irresistable for some women. What if Madsen was chained to a bed, and she's whipping him, going "You're a naughty boy!", is that to be considered as Obstruction of Punishment?

Just keep the guy locked up...

Appeal

Peter Madsen's appeal case started today. He's in court now.


Convicted killer of Kim Wall: Appeal case starts

The three-day session at the Eastern High Court in Copenhagen will not deal with the Apr. 25 guilty ruling.

In Denmark, a life sentence is on average 16 years, but can be extended if necessary. Madsen, 47, wants a time-limited sentence, not an open-ended prison term.

Hald Engmark said Wednesday the prosecution case was based "on undocumented claims."

She said Madsen did something "horrible" by cutting Wall's body into pieces, but he should only be sentenced for that, noting that the cause of death has never been established. Under Danish law, indecent handling of a corpse carries a maximum sentence of six months in jail.

A decision is expected Sept. 14.

Live from court:
Følg Peter Madsens ankesag live (in Danish)

A judge collapsed in court some 30 minutes ago. Condition is not clear but maybe a heart attack. The court is having a break for now.


Live report in danish:
Følg livebloggen: Peter Madsen i retten

They've canceled the rest of the day. It's unclear what will happen now.


Domsmand fik et ildebefindende under ubådssagen - retten er hævet (in danish)

Det er uvist, om sagen skal gå om.

Ganske kort tid efter faldt en af de to domsmænd om på stolen, og der opstod tumult i salen.

- Er der nogle, der kan førstehjælp, blev der flere gange råbt både inde i retssalen og i lytterummet, hvor journalister fra både Danmark og udlandet fulgte sagen over to store skærme.

One of the two judges collapsed. Someone shouted "Does anybody here know how to give first aid?" several times. The live monitors were shut off and Peter Madsen was escorted out of the courtroom.

Kim Walls father gave first aid

Kim Walls father gave first aid to the judge. He's been taken to hospital. Peter Madsen looked terrified as he said "Oh no, Oh no!" and raised his hands to his head.


LIVE Retsmøde aflyst i ubådssagen: En person har det dårligt (in danish)

If Kim Wall's father saved the Judge's life, how will this affect Peter Madsen's appeal case? They're supposed to continue with the same Judge, or else the whole appeal case will have to start over from the beginning with a replacement.

No Change

The appeal case was concluded yesterday. There's no change. He's sentenced for life.

originally posted by: Hellmutt
No Change

The appeal case was concluded yesterday. There's no change. He's sentenced for life.

Well thats good news may Ms Walls rest in peace....

originally posted by: Hellmutt
a reply to: Dae

Apparently, killers are irresistable for some women. What if Madsen was chained to a bed, and she's whipping him, going "You're a naughty boy!", is that to be considered as Obstruction of Punishment?

I really don't get what you are saying. Are you having a go at me about something? You think its ok for a prisoner to have a relationship with a guard? Did you have issues with me saying the word punishment? Its your mind that went to the sexual images. Why did you bring up that "killers are irresistable for some women"? Most women stay away from men like that, just like most men don't kill or rape.

Anyways, thanks for the update, glad he is put away for life - which is punishment for him and security for society.

a reply to: Dae

No issues. No, not you. I know most women don't. However, many serial killers do get fan letters from women. I don't know why. During this trial, it has come to light that Peter Madsen seems to like kinky sex, and your "Obstruction of Punishment" comment plus the situation with the prison guard romance triggered that absurd image. No disrespect to anyone intended.

Btw, when Peter Madsen received the last sentence, there were three female fans in the courtroom for some reason, and he managed to talk to at least one of them before guards intervened.

a reply to: Hellmutt

You do have to wonder what the hell sometimes eh. I can't fathom why some women would be attracted to him! But I suppose bad is attracted to bad.

I was interested in this topic as its a classic nightmarish situation, plus that photo of him and Wells on the sub, I saw how his face turned away (at the time of the photo he was denying everything, set her on the shore etc.) and I knew he killed her. Then we found out he did and in a most terrible way.

Thinking about the female fan angle... women are more empowered now than every before and this includes empowered psychos and plain crazies as well as "normal" women. We just all got to remember that women are just people and have the full range of messed up that men can have. Nature/nurture just expresses it differently. So the female fan angle... *grins* if I had my way, anyone writing fan letters or wanting to see him get fined or prison time too haha I really don't want him to have any happiness in prison, he took that woman's life - no more sadness or happiness for her.

Latest: Peter Madsen does not appeal to the High Court.


Peter Madsen accepterer dom på livstid - ubådssagen når ikke Højesteret (Danish)

New film:



Into the Deep (2020)

In 2016, Australian filmmaker Emma Sullivan began documenting Peter Madsen's workshop and his quest to launch a rocket into space. One year later, the filming took a tragic turn when Madsen brutally murdered Swedish journalist Kim Wall aboard his homemade submarine.

... Emma Sullivan's footage proved instrumental in the conviction of Peter Madsen.

Rating: NR
Genre: Documentary
Directed By: Emma Sullivan
Runtime: 90 minutes
Studio: Netflix

IMDb: Into the Deep (2020)

a reply to: Hellmutt

Reading this thread for the first time. I had not heard this story and I'd like to see that doc but who knows if I'll ever get the chance.

Did nothing come of the snuff films? Were they really real? If so, then I would think that a whole lot of people would be trying to figure out who is in them, right? Did he have anything to do with them? If not, then who is out there making snuff films? Last I saw when I was looking into whether snuff films were real "they" had no evidence they existed, but "they" could also be full of it.

This seems to contradict that assumption.

a reply to: Hellmutt

I looked for something regarding what I was asking about and came up with nothing. A little more detail about what was on the videos is all.

She was stabbed while on board the submarine, according to the findings.

But that wasn’t all. Prosecutors in Denmark also revealed that a forensic digital search of a computer in Madsen’s Copenhagen laboratory turned up the worst type of pornographic videos imaginable — “snuff” films that depicted the actual murders of women, who are apparently killed on camera for the entertainment of a sick and twisted audience.

The videos discovered on the personal computer’s hard drive, according to Prosecutor Jakob Buch-Jepsen, depicted living women being strangled to death, burned alive, and even beheaded on camera. The prosecutors say that they now believe Madsen murdered and mutilated Wall to fulfill some sort of depraved sexual fantasy.

Seems to me this part should be a bigger story than it seems to be. At least I couldn't find any news reports about this.

a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

Whether the snuff films were really real, I don't know. They've checked his DNA in Norway, Denmark and Sweden and compared it with unsolved cases, but found nothing. I've found the film on Netflix, but it's not playable there yet. According to danish news media, the film will be available on Netflix soon. Whether he recorded the murder in his submarine and then uploaded it somewhere on the internet, is not known. He was arrested as soon as the set foot on land, and they found nothing on him to indicate so. He could have dumped it at sea, if he did record it.