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Conservative groups, funded by fossil fuel magnates, spend approximately one billion dollars every year interfering with public understanding of what is actually happening to our world.
originally posted by: jrod
splinternews.com...
Conservative groups, funded by fossil fuel magnates, spend approximately one billion dollars every year interfering with public understanding of what is actually happening to our world.
This a great read about how climate change denial has spread to the Evangelical crowd and now to the White House.
While this can be a heated topic here on ATS and this thread will likely be full of the typical rhetoric, I think a lot can be learned from what this article has to offer. The fossil fuel interests are spending 1 billion a year to mislead the public about the reality of of human caused climate change and other man made environmental problems.
originally posted by: DanDanDat
originally posted by: jrod
splinternews.com...
Conservative groups, funded by fossil fuel magnates, spend approximately one billion dollars every year interfering with public understanding of what is actually happening to our world.
This a great read about how climate change denial has spread to the Evangelical crowd and now to the White House.
While this can be a heated topic here on ATS and this thread will likely be full of the typical rhetoric, I think a lot can be learned from what this article has to offer. The fossil fuel interests are spending 1 billion a year to mislead the public about the reality of of human caused climate change and other man made environmental problems.
Just so I know how to put that 1 billion a year spent by the fossil fuel interests to mislead the public into context; how much money is spent a year by climate change interests to mislead the public? ... more, less, about the same?
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: DanDanDat
originally posted by: jrod
splinternews.com...
Conservative groups, funded by fossil fuel magnates, spend approximately one billion dollars every year interfering with public understanding of what is actually happening to our world.
This a great read about how climate change denial has spread to the Evangelical crowd and now to the White House.
While this can be a heated topic here on ATS and this thread will likely be full of the typical rhetoric, I think a lot can be learned from what this article has to offer. The fossil fuel interests are spending 1 billion a year to mislead the public about the reality of of human caused climate change and other man made environmental problems.
Just so I know how to put that 1 billion a year spent by the fossil fuel interests to mislead the public into context; how much money is spent a year by climate change interests to mislead the public? ... more, less, about the same?
They want 600 billion a year. Carbon credit scam is about 3 trillion a year.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Here is your solution: (but the right people don't get rich of the rest of us)
www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: jrod
Except all the falsifying of data and the fact that the earth has cooled and heated before the industrial revolution.
But let ignore history and pay a tax to make it all better. Al Gore is growing very wealthy off this brand of scare tactics.
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: jrod
Most of us do not care if it is real or not to be honest.
When your ONLY solution is a money scam (carbon credit scam) which is no solution at all except the "right" people get rich at the expense of the masses (me and you) for absolutely no positive benefit.
We have seen fake data being pressed and hysterics used to promote this scam and that is really what resistance is about.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: jrod
Except all the falsifying of data and the fact that the earth has cooled and heated before the industrial revolution.
But let ignore history and pay a tax to make it all better. Al Gore is growing very wealthy off this brand of scare tactics.
Let's just say for sake of argument you are right about climate change.
Outside of that, there is a huge amount of scientific evidence that real environmental damage has been done globally by irresponsible business, industry, and community activities, from pollution to de-forestation.
I would argue that the point of the op still stands true: Big conservative special interests fight tooth and nail against the environmental movement and from holding industry accountable for their environmental "externalities" (in reality internalities and the word itself is absurd).
originally posted by: seasonal
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: jrod
Except all the falsifying of data and the fact that the earth has cooled and heated before the industrial revolution.
But let ignore history and pay a tax to make it all better. Al Gore is growing very wealthy off this brand of scare tactics.
Let's just say for sake of argument you are right about climate change.
Outside of that, there is a huge amount of scientific evidence that real environmental damage has been done globally by irresponsible business, industry, and community activities, from pollution to de-forestation.
I would argue that the point of the op still stands true: Big conservative special interests fight tooth and nail against the environmental movement and from holding industry accountable for their environmental "externalities" (in reality internalities and the word itself is absurd).
Not just conservative, look at Amazon-Google-Apple. Not the poster child for sustainability.
100% agree businesses and corps like to externalize the dirty sides of their business. Making this a conserve vs liberal thing is silly.
"Many lines of evidence demonstrate that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are primarily responsible for the observed climate changes over the last 15 decades. There are no alternative explanations. There are no apparent natural cycles in the observational record that can explain the recent changes in climate (e.g., PAGES 2K 2013; Marcott et al. 2013). In addition, natural cycles within the Earth’s climate system can only redistribute heat; they cannot be responsible for the observed increase in the overall heat content of the climate system (Church et al. 2011). Internal variability, alternative explanations, or even unknown forcing factors cannot explain the majority of the observed changes in climate (Anderson et al. 2012)."
originally posted by: DBCowboy
There are always those that will be the true believers and there will always be skeptics.
I don't think either will ever convince the other.