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Here’s What Happens When Male Marines Go Up Against Mixed-Gender

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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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This is probably going to make some of your screech and go into convulsions on the ground as it may shatter your weakened mind.

Article: What happens when male marines go up against mixed gender *SNIP* see MODERATOR note in edit.


As part of the research experiment, 400 Marines — 300 male, 100 female — trained for combat together and then went through a simulated deployment, with every aspect of their training measured for in-depth analysis.




“All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.


Basically what it comes down to people is that women's minds and body are not designed for this. As much as I love women, and trust me I do I have to face the facts at some point and realize that men and women are built very different both mentally and physically. It's not a bad thing. It's a good thing because I don't want to date/ marry a woman who acts like a dude. I want a woman who is a woman damnit.

Call me sexist for pointing out the obvious and having more traditional values.
edit on 9-8-2017 by spacedoubt because: MOD NOTE: Political trolling article title amended. This is not the mud pit.



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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Now now....

All of that has changed. Emotions override reality. We ARE ALL THE SAME.

Welcome to the snowflake era. You get trophies for being on the team, without winning, without even showing up.


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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

So I have a weakened mind for believing there are women out there with notable marksmanship, comparable to a man's, if not better in some cases?

Is that the gist of this, or could you correct the score for me?
edit on 8-8-2017 by CreationBro because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
This is probably going to make some of your screech and go into convulsions on the ground as it may shatter your weakened mind.

Ring wing nutters



As part of the research experiment, 400 Marines — 300 male, 100 female — trained for combat together and then went through a simulated deployment, with every aspect of their training measured for in-depth analysis.




“All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.


Basically what it comes down to people is that women's minds and body are not designed for this. As much as I love women, and trust me I do I have to face the facts at some point and realize that men and women are built very different both mentally and physically. It's not a bad thing. It's a good thing because I don't want to date/ marry a woman who acts like a dude. I want a woman who is a woman damnit.

Call me sexist for pointing out the obvious and having more traditional values.


I don't call you sexist, but I think there is not yet a word created for this - maybe right now 'confused'. If a woman takes massive doses of testosterone then she will become a male-like being. Is that not true?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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TEND AND BEFRIEND IS THY NATURE



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: CreationBro

ugh please I mean really?

do we need to sit here go over every outlier to justify a position in a debate?

you are on ATS I expect more from you and you should already know that outliers do not justify positions in a debate


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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

No it's not true as a brown belt in jiu-jitsu I promise you there is no way a woman can become manlike

if you look at competitive combat sports the women's division starts and finishes at WAY lower weight classes and there is a reason for that

it's just facts, reality, cold hard reality

sorry ladies nothing against you and yes obviously there is a spectrum however there is also an average



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
TEND AND BEFRIEND IS THY NATURE


Is that the code of the U.S. military?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: InTheLight

No it's not true as a brown belt in jiu-jitsu I promise you there is no way a woman can become manlike

if you look at competitive combat sports the women's division starts and finishes at WAY lower weight classes and there is a reason for that

it's just facts, reality, cold hard reality

sorry ladies nothing against you and yes obviously there is a spectrum however there is also an average


Sorry, but you are forgetting sniper and intel...as usual.


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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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The simple answer is to set the standards for what they need to be on all skills and for all physical feats and take anyone who can pass.

If you find a woman who can do it, then let her in, but you likely won't find very many.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

No some evolutionary # that pertains to females



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: InTheLight

No some evolutionary # that pertains to females


What does that mean in any rational terms?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
The simple answer is to set the standards for what they need to be on all skills and for all physical feats and take anyone who can pass.

If you find a woman who can do it, then let her in, but you likely won't find very many.


So, no intelligence it required then?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Google the term.

You have all this technology at your finger tips.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: InTheLight

Google the term.

You have all this technology at your finger tips.


Yet, you don't have common sense at yours.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Omg, trying to tip toe carefully and tell my wife that men are better than women at things and viceaversa is painful...

I say the same thing, it's good that we are different. Otherwise, we are robots lol.

My favorite to tell her is... I'm not only ill equipped, but mentally not fit to push out two children like she has. She's a woman. And that's something I can't do. Nor ever will.

Sure men and women can grow up to be the same professions, but at some point, in the law of averages will show who is better and where as we progress in time.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: CreationBro

ugh please I mean really?

do we need to sit here go over every outlier to justify a position in a debate?

you are on ATS I expect more from you and you should already know that outliers do not justify positions in a debate




You're right. Im a terrible ATS amateur. Debate over.

You hear that ladies? If you're good with a gun, you're just an unimportant "outlier" and don't need to be considered in this thread, the topic of which is women's proficiency with guns.

Logic denied.


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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

howso?

Do you believe there's no biological difference between a man and a woman?

You about to go on a virtue signalling crusade?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: CreationBro

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: CreationBro

ugh please I mean really?

do we need to sit here go over every outlier to justify a position in a debate?

you are on ATS I expect more from you and you should already know that outliers do not justify positions in a debate




You're right. Im a terrible ATS amateur. Debate over.

You hear that ladies? If you're good with a gun, you're just an unimportant "outlier" and don't need to be considered in this thread, the topic of which is women's proficiency with guns.

Logic denied.


Again, intel denied. That is where we should be telling you guys what to do.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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I read the link and can see your point but....
History is filled with stories of women in combat, not from the USA though.
I remember reading about some Russian women during WW2, that helped put a hurting on the Germans.
But those might be extraordinary cases.
I would imagine that in a real fight or die firefight, something clicks inside you while you try to survive but it remains to be seen if that will happen with US women combat soldiers.
I am not disputing the findings, I just think there is no way of knowing for sure until the SHTF and they go in to combat.




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