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originally posted by: trollz
originally posted by: TheErlenmeyerFlask
a reply to: trollz
3 or 4 AD is the going idea. Jesus was a toddler when Herod issued a decree killing all Jewish babies. Works of Josephus.
Yeah, that's the point. For someone who would have been arguably the most important person to ever exist, nobody actually knows when he was born, not even the day or month. People can only come up with various guesses because there's no actual record of it happening.
I can feel the hatred seething through your teeth as you type your response. Where does that hatred come from? yes I am talking to you.
when I was an arrogant atheist.
The year is 2017.
A very important distinction to study and get clear in ones mind . The Bible does make the distinction between the God and those other gods who are just as real as the creator God .
There is a difference between being 'a god' and being 'the god'
originally posted by: eisegesis
Most people don't know who or what Jesus was, even those that "worship" him. I suggest you read, Arcane Schools by John Yarker. Still not definitive, but it will without a doubt cause you to pause and reevaluate your position.
Here is your motivation:
There exists in Thibet and India a "Secret Doctrine" which is of unquestioned antiquity, and of which analogical confirmation may be found in the writings of the ancient Philosophers. This doctrine allows for the existence in extreme antiquity of a sunken continent in the Pacific ocean, of which the present islands are mountain tops, and in the Atlantic ocean of seven islands, the last of which sank beneath the waters about the period which we have assigned for a great cataclysm, or 12,500 years ago.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: StandingTallForChrist
Jesus is no more God than you are your father.
originally posted by: StandingTallForChrist
Nothing I am about to write is an original thought, of that I am sure. With 100+ Billion people who have ever lived, perhaps no thought is truely unique.
Here is the absolute proof that Jesus Christ IS GOD.
Jesus was a poor carpenter who grew up in a predominantly illiterate and tiny corner of the world. He lived just 33 years, the last few making claims of his Godhood. Which ultimately lead to his death. He was not a general, or dictator or ruler or king or president... he was a simple and humble servant.
1) What year is it? 2017. It is 2017 to EVERYONE on Earth. Every check or document you sign atheist or theist is dated 2017. That is precisely 2017 years since the birth of Jesus Christ. This fact must REALLY get the goats of all those Atheists who have to acknowledge the year in which we live... maybe they could file a federal lawsuit!
2) Jesus Christ is the single most influential figure in all of human history. His name is known across all races, creeds, ethnicities, geographic boundaries and even time itself. Julius Caesar who? Genghis Khan what? Hitler? Stalin? Lincoln? Washington? Minor figures in history compared to the giant that is Jesus Christ.
3) He defeated death and rose three days later. He even restored others to life. Proof of his resurrection lies directly in the behavior of his followers, who were so terrified of the Roman Guard that they denied Jesus while he lived to save their own skin. But after he rose again and walked among them, they TRULY believed and most went to a gruesome death without ever denying the Messiah again. The bones of Jesus will never be discovered.
4) He appeared to me supernaturally 11 years ago, when I was an arrogant atheist. The light shined so brightly, yet there was no source... it was a room, with no windows, no light source... the most beautiful sight... but I digress. I understand my personal experience is no proof to you... but I never claimed to provide YOU with proof... only to present proof.
Jesus Christ lives and He IS God.
Which is why the entire world turns on a timetable marked by his birth... most of whom HATE him and deny him at every turn.
He is coming, there is still time to change your heart.
Now... my atheist friends... commence the trolling