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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
I hate to be the bearer of bad news buckaroo, but we had just a touch of slavery here in the gold old United States of America at one time by nice Christian folk just trying to make a buck. The rest of your stuff made me laugh as well but this was the most egregious of them.
Just a list of what's proven..
Jesus was a real man was greeted by Magi in Egypt at his birth, was baptizied by John the Baptist, was killed by Pilate, by Pharisees, on a cross, for claiming to be the Messiah, performed features such as turning one bread into multiple loafs, formed what's known as Christian movement, had Jews and gentiles believing he was their Lord, when he died during Passover of on 14th a solar eclipse happen for 3 hours, he died that same day, earthquakes shook and rattled Judea, his followers claimed to have seen him resurrect, they would die by their belief in him for years to come, will prophecy in his name. All of that is backed by documentation from historians and other high figures who could not stand him or his Christian movement.
Agnostics, just because you don't think we can understand the Bible, God, or Jesus, doesn't mean you can't. You just gotta try, friend. Read a book or two of people in that time.
Anyways, Jesus is documented from probably as early as 30AD until now. I am not big believer in Catholic church.. but care to take a stare at how massive their archives are?
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Actually it was the democrats who wanted to keep slaves...It had nothing to do with religion...
"All servants not being Christians, imported into this colony by shipping, shall be slaves for their lives." - Official Act of the Colony of Virginia, 1670.
"Jesus Christ recognized this (i.e. slavery) institution as one that was lawful among men, and regulated its relative duties. ... I affirm then, first (and no man denies) that Jesus Christ has not abolished slavery by a prohibitory command; and second, I affirm, he has introduced no new moral principle which can work its destruction." - Reverend Thomas Stringfellow, A Scriptural View of Slavery.
LOL it was you who posted false opinion as facts.
originally posted by: windword
Now, there's tons of literature, testimony, statues, coins and rituals celebrating the Greek Gods and Zeus. That doesn't prove that those gods actual exist, or existed anywhere other than in the minds of their worshippers.
Pineal gland is a very reknown by many as the third eye and key it to mysteries of the super natural and the spiritual and possibly mind control.
You are arguing that being meek, humble, and charitable does not strengthen spirits? How so?
When it is the apposite I feel disconnected to that. Empty and hollow. The Bible gives you that.
and Yes, I believe you can't disprove Jesus. I think it is a waste of time to even try.
You should use all your brains energy to correct and polish and fully understand what you believe.
Not setting out to disprove something you do not believe. Because how can you understand what you can't believe? How do you know it all to disprove it? Just focus on building your own understanding and let that be enough. Most who "set out to disprove..." end up in failure because they are pursuing something they don't believe or understand fully.
Spend time on what you believe in and proving that.
In my opinion, referring either Jesus as a teacher or not existence is silly. Just because you find Gnostic writings, don't make Jesus a Gnostic.
Just because Ebionites and Marcionist existed 100-200 years after Jesus doesn't prove anything. It proves they are heretics.
Romans for most part had nothing to do with Christianity, their biggest involvement was Constantine who formed the holy bible we know today. Ironically Rome fell 100 years later to Germany.
Agnostics should be defined as, "I believe in God, but don't care or know much about it."
Agnostics, just because you don't think we can understand the Bible, God, or Jesus, doesn't mean you can't.
You just gotta try, friend. Read a book or two of people in that time.
A lot of Pagan ideas came after Jesus. This is also documented. To compare Pagan to Christianity is ignorant as well. There is no proof Christ took from Pagans but there is mountains of evidence that Romans tried to combat Jesus through Paganism by creating mock gods. Just because Constantine, a former pagan, forced our Holy Scripture, our Holy day, and our Jubiliees and replaced it with Pagan ones almost 400 years later, does not mean Jesus was a pagan.
All of that is backed by documentation from historians and other high figures who could not stand him or his Christian movement.
a solar eclipse happen for 3 hours
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Yep, and don't forget the "Curse/Mark of Cain" and "Curse of Ham/Canaan" justifications. They claimed that dark skin was God's proof of the curse and that those marked w/dark skin were forever destined to serve Christians.