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Marijuana devastated Colorado, don’t legalize it nationally

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posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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Well this thread is going well.
And people say stoners aren't motivated




posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: feldercarb
I found this USA today opinion piece via Yahoo. The author makes claims that the aims of legalizing Marijuana have not been meet but actually made things worse. He states that the arrest rates for blacks and latinos have gone up for marijuana possession in Colorado. Also, he claims that studies show that marijuana use is causing minority students to fail courses in universities in Colorado. As for additional tax revenue, the author claims that marijuana has only brought in less than 1.5% additional tax revenue. Take a look at the article and tell me what you think.


Marijuana devastated Colorado, don't legalize it nationally



Well dam man, tax free stuff is always cheeper and preferred if its good. Legal booze never but the shinners out of action. Pots going to be worse. This was only a money idea anyway not really a wow hippy Jesus with a joint on the cutting edge of freedoms revolution.



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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My guess is in part of drumming up the agenda. Paid opine writer of the article? After all Bernays propaganda isn't working, need new tales to tell.

Washington State revived a letter from Sessions recently, discussing as follows...

“This report raises serious questions about the efficacy of marijuana 'regulatory structures' in your state,” Sessions concludes.


The Sou rce, more on it:


Sessions's letter acknowledges correspondence from Washington and other legal marijuana states, which characterize the Cole Memo as “indispensable” to those states' marijuana regulatory structures. Sessions then goes on to underscore the final sentence of the Cole Memo: “Nothing herein precludes investigation or prosecution, even in the absence of any one of the factors listed above, in particular circumstances where investigation and prosecution otherwise serves an important federal interest.”




Sessions then cites a litany of concerns about the outcomes of Washington's regulatory experiment, culled from a report by the Northwest High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA), a federally funded drug task force. Those concerns include diversion of legal marijuana from Washington to other states, an increase in drivers testing positive for past marijuana use, and an increase in marijuana-related calls to the state's poison control center.


The letter suggests the Feds are serious on what's going on with the legal states.

Here's the issue brought up about that:


But Hudak has own concerns about the accuracy of data Sessions is relying on. Those reports are compiled solely by law enforcement authorities and are “notorious for cherry-picking data and failing to put data into context,” Hudak said. He points out that while the report was issued in 2016 it includes only data covering the first six months of Washington's commercial market, which opened midway through 2014.

Cherry-picking.

“We don't know, based on [the HIDTA] data, what Washington has done since then,” Hudak said. “The attorney general is drawing these grand conclusions based on incomplete data or data taken out of context.”



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 08:25 PM
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I am all for legalizing Marijuana.

Employers will still drug test and many of the people that use will not be able to hold jobs.
Plus a number of people will become felons for DUI and not be able to find good jobs.

At age 66 i will be able to find work because i can pass a drug test.



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: ANNED

My man...THAT is paramount!
Cause all the ballhoo and emotional yahooism wont get you a job with my company...just a good work ethic, and a general honesty



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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the biggest problem here in colorado is natives pushing back at newcomers thinking they are all evil drug users., colorado has some of the lowest unemployment right now and has one of the best "brand names" of any state.

a reply to: feldercarb



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell



According to the Colorado Department of Public Safety, arrests in Colorado of black and Latino youth for marijuana possession have increased 58% and 29% respectively after legalization. This means that Black and Latino youth are being arrested more for marijuana possession after it became legal.


A simple question.

How's it legal if people are being arrested for marijuana possession?


Do people get arrested for having booze?


Key word there is "youth."

Is it okay for youth to consume alcohol because it is legal?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Willtell



According to the Colorado Department of Public Safety, arrests in Colorado of black and Latino youth for marijuana possession have increased 58% and 29% respectively after legalization. This means that Black and Latino youth are being arrested more for marijuana possession after it became legal.


A simple question.

How's it legal if people are being arrested for marijuana possession?


Do people get arrested for having booze?


Key word there is "youth."

Is it okay for youth to consume alcohol because it is legal?


Also, and I am unsure if what I herein speak of is counted among the crime stats, the Pig Gang have found a new niche for theft. For example, they advertise on CL in states where it's legal, hoping that someone will meet up, or send cash. Since it is verboten to buy or sell outside of taxation centers (dispensaries), a bust ensues, unless they like ya, in which case the cash just gets pocketed. The variations on this theme are endless, and you can just imagine the nightmarish maze surrounding and within enclaves where it is now legal, because I don't want to
supply them with ideas.

Pigs, everywhere pot is legal, are clamoring to get these lucrative positions. A lot of side loot is grabbed this way with no need for messy book keeping, since that would mean the pigs would have to turn in their stolen dollars. Were the healthful nutrient illegal, the pigs would have to formally arrest everyone, and not be personally enrichened. I am guessing the side stakes are huge. They are prolly high as kites while luring in robbery victims, since legal means even pigs can partake. I don't know how they live with themselves, but then, it only brings out what is already in you, maybe a coronary. Once a pig, always a pig, especially when stoned.

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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 03:35 AM
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Was just in Colorado two weeks ago visiting Rocky Mountain National Park. I'm not sure if this article is highly inaccurate or if Colorado is a taxation nightmare because the weed tax is 12.9% statewide PLUS any local taxes on top of the state tax so you're looking at 20+% tax in many places. I can't believe 12.9% of the entire sale of weed in that state only amounts to less than a 1.5% increase in tax revenue. I think I'm going to have to call this article complete bulls*t because the math just doesn't add up.
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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: feldercarb

This article is written by a christo-facist fundementalist. Everything in it should be viewed with tremendous skepticism.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Alcohol is a psychotropic too.

All drugs which affect brain activity, mood and so on are considered such. Use of the word is meaningless in this context.

People are not, normally speaking, allowed to drink alcohol at work, and by and large, people do not, unless they are bar staff at one of "those" kinds of bar, if you know what I mean.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Weird point of fact i used to work in an office many moons ago and there was a guy that was an alcoholic who was indeed allowed, by management, to imbibe alcohol down to his condition.

Now seems to me recognised medical condition or otherwise one rule for some and another for the rest is rather problematic in the work place environment never mind the possible implications regarding health and safety.


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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

But that same guy would not be permitted to operate machinery, or ladders, or anything else in a different working environment, would he?

No, because health and safety violations would result.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Guy was a wee bit on the pongy side to be honest so most people tended to avoid the poor soul down to the BO.

He did have rather a propensity to be hanging around the hot Coffee maker all the same, spilled that everywhere a few times in memory serves, although it hardly counts as machinery i suppose in the conventional sense. LoL

People should not be inebriated at work through especially when dealing with the public, stands to reason really.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: rickymouse

Alcohol is a psychotropic too.

All drugs which affect brain activity, mood and so on are considered such. Use of the word is meaningless in this context.

People are not, normally speaking, allowed to drink alcohol at work, and by and large, people do not, unless they are bar staff at one of "those" kinds of bar, if you know what I mean.


I know some people who smoked Pot at work. Actually quite a few who did it. If it was legal they would do it way more often, they also would tell their employers they can do nothing about it because it was legal. You open a whole new can of worms when you make cannabis totally legal. The rights of the employer are challenged more easily. Even the no using Cannabis at work or on breaks could be challenged in court if it is deemed legal.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

But should the right of the employer not be able to be challenged more easily?

Seems to me demonising a weed whilst at the same time allowing alcohol and tobacco products to be perfectly legal for mainstream public consumption is hypocritical beyond belief.

Then again people should not really be stoned at work any more than they should be drunk or smoking tobacco for that matter as it simply gives the wrong impression.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

What do you think is worse? People potentially smoking pot at work because it is legal or people being arrested for smoking pot because it is illegal?



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I have to go with the second offence as the legality of what amounts to a medicinal herb should be nobody's business other than the person consuming such.

People could potentially do all sorts of things at work or on there break because they are legal but that does not mean that they are appropriate.

Time and place for everything really but work time and play time are hardly synonymous.
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posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Exactly. People know what is an isn't appropriate behavior at work. Keeping pot illegal because some bad eggs may smoke during work hours is poor reasoning.



posted on Aug, 8 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Keeping Marijuana illegal period is a bad idea!

Imagine the public out cry should tobacco or alcohol be demonised in the same manner?

And those products actually kill people.


Fact is the hypocrisy that surrounds Marijuana and the consumption of such is based on lies, fear, and ignorance.



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