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The United States Government

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posted on Jun, 28 2003 @ 07:27 PM
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I know many people here on ATS reside in the United States. Some of us support the gov't, some of us don't. My position on government is this.

We live in an age of technology and science. Science, natrally, is used by the government to create military and healthcare technologies, that it in turn for taxes, supplies to the people. Hospitols, dentistries, orthopedistes, and the military as an agent of security.

The military is the most important of all, cos without it, the other agencies wouldn't be possible in the first place. The soldiers protect our nation, and to do that successfully they need top of the line technology and healthcare. However in todays army there is an element lacking not only there, but in the rest of America. Honor. Many of todays soldiers are well educated, yes, but they do not hold the status of soldier in high regard as it once was in other states. Being a soldier is something to be proud of, but many people dislike the army, and with good reason. The military hides things, not only from the people, but even from the soldiers themselves. There is much corruption. Too much. When we here about it from a solid source, that source is cast down as antiamerican, unpatriotic, or with sympathy to our enemies, and in turn, because of this propagandizing on mass media, the people belive it too, cos the soulless bastards on tv must be right.

What secrets does our government keep from us, and why must it be hidden? We know there are ufos. We have seen them, and recorded them, and probably even have talked to and met with a few. But the government makes up excuses, that it was an odd mixture of swamp gas and light, in the middle of a desert. Or weather ballons, while the crash site was zoned off, and people who knew about it were sworn to silence. Is the weather industry afraid of embarresmant, or is there something more to the story?

And then there is the moon. What good reason is there for us to have not gone back. NASA says we know all we could know about the moon, yet we only have a small amount of space rocks, from too small of reigions to gather any conclusive or important data that we do not already know.

More recently, the war in Iraq. I'm not saying there aren't any WMDs. But so far, we haven't seen any. The type of person Saddam was, why didn't he use them? Why haven't defectees told us the locations? If there was so many of it, how could he have pawned them over to Syria or Iran or Saudi Arabia? We don't know the answer to the questions, but the gov't asked the media to tell the people that was why we were going to war, and since it came from tv, it must be true.

I see the current government as inefficient, and ineffective. We all toil with no purpose other than to chase the dollar, and for what? Conformity and capitolist wastes? What happens when you and your group od friends at work at school, or wherever else, see a person different from you? That doesn't dress the way you do, or likes a different type of music? Then, in most cases like at school, a goth is labeled a freak, a smart person or a popular person a prep, a secretive person a suicidal, or the athletic person a jock. Assumptions made by differnce, based on ignorance, that is what our people have been dumbed down to.

The education system is crap, we all know it. The stuff we are told in schools is little more than stuff to lock up and fill the 10 % of our brains that we're ever going to use. We don't look for anything more than a good paying job to get ther latest music or clothes. In school, we don't learn much about other countries, and we don't learn much about our true history. We, in most schools, have six languages to choose from.

French, Spanish, German, Latin, Italian, and Chinese.

What about Russian, or Japanese, or Hongul, or Portugese, or Slavic, and a number of other important languages that could get you a decent gov't job. Since does our freedom require us to sign up for seletive service at 18? To fight a war that we won't want. Where is our voice in government? Surely not in the small selection of people we have to vote for, people who usually ride their fathers name, or bribe and blackmail to get into the position they're in?

Change is needed. A revolution in the way things our done. A revolution of truth, to hide no longer the secrets our government holds. A revolution doesn't have to be a war, but in todays world you odn't get heard easily any other way. We as Americans, must expose the lies, using our Constituional Freedoms. And when they are taken from us, then we take up our weapons and fight. How can you call the Patriots a Terrorist? How is trying to eradicate corruption and conspiracy terrorism? Since when does looking out for the good of the people make you an enemy combatant?

I'd like to know your opinions on my position on the government as well as your own. Thank you, and goodnight.



posted on Jun, 28 2003 @ 07:36 PM
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in the case of WoMD, do you think it is likely that the Military has found the WoMD and instead of saying 'hey we found them woo hoo' they ar secretly storing them so that the US goverment has an allocation of WoMD that no ones knows about and no one can trace. Think like georgie for a minute, people already think you lied to them about the WMD, and if they are gona impeach you you can always just say hey we have got them look look, but if all people are gona do is contiune the way they are going then why not hide those WoMD and use those WoMD instead of your own to fight your enemies, hell since there from iraq why not let one off in say libia or in Iran, then you can say THERE THERE they have saddams WoMD see we told you invade. Just a theory and maybe im totally wrong i hope i am beacause if Bush is as cunning as that then we are all farked.



posted on Jun, 28 2003 @ 07:48 PM
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Using your enemies guns instead of your own is always a double edged sword.

If we were to let go a warhead containg VX or Sarin or some other agent in Damuscus, it could have many different outcomes.

Here is the most likely situation.

July 4th, 2oo3. Damuscus, Syria..... 14oo hrs.

A blast is heard in the government sector of the Syrian capitol, at first it seems to be nothing more than a small scale terror attack by some militant group targeting American tourists, however, soon, there are reports in area hospitols of many hundred people suffering from similar ailments, the tests come in positive, a Sarin nerve gas attack, further analysis of the missle case and other debris leads to the conclusion that it was launched in a region of western Iraq as of yet untouched by the US Army forces in the Baghdad and main city areas. Later, a small fleet of B-2 Lancers destroys a small town where the remnant of the Elite Republican Guard was rumored to be regrouping. However, it is later discovered, that the town was hosting a visit by an important Russian diplomat, a strong opponent of the American war on Iraq, however, by that time it is too late. The world looks at America for an answer, and we smile and say 'I told ya so.' but in Mother Russia, a storm is brewing back at the Kremlin. The order for a joint Russian-Chinese airstike is govin from the Neo Communist Union, the South Korean 2nd ID troops are destroyed, and the South is then annexed by a near million North Korean guards. The NCU promises not to attack again if the US merely admits it's part in the assassination and the strike against Damuscus. The world knows that the NCU isn't screwin around and pressures America into sumbission and admission, then the people decide the rest.

While the above is not a very likely scenarion, it makes you think of what could happen if such a thing occured. Right now, our balls are big, we need not to waste time with such tactics after a quick victory in Iraq. We could easily knock over Syria, Iran, or Saudi Arabia.



posted on Jun, 28 2003 @ 09:22 PM
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ahh yes indeed the many faces of treachery can nevr be anticipated, but the likely scenario is that it would be let off at ground level, so that it would appear to have been a stored WoMD accedentilly going off, there for giving the US Govt a justification of taking that countrie, all bush would have to say is, ' they have taken Iraqs weapons get them'. there is no way they could use a propelled WMD beacause then it would be imposible to say it was being stored and just accedently went off.



posted on Jun, 29 2003 @ 12:23 AM
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i think the CIA could easily manipulate some heartless crackhead to go nuke a city in the middle east. it is completely within our power to muke a nation and make it look like someone else, isn't that what happens in our gov't everyday, do something and make someone else take the blame? it's so easy.




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