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It's on the news today: President Trump and the Russian invovlement

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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Snarl
I did send a link to this sight to Rachel Maddows blog.
www.msnbc.com...
Invited her to join.


Oh man she would love it here.


She is the Left's Alex Jones. Them two are 2 sides of the same coin.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: ilikenotebooks
a reply to: xuenchen

"russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of our assets. we see a lot of money pouring in from russia." -trump jr.

and yet trump sr. keeps insisting the only connection to russia is the Miss Universe pageant hosted there once? come on. it's people like you that voted for him. blinded by fame and bluster. anybody can say anything. it's what they actually MEAN that is what counts.


What no "Sources" ?



Clever indeed.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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maybe someone's already posted this and I missed it somehow.
but this is the original article that the video is referring to..

newrepublic.com...

people should read the article before making comments.
a short little video doesn't do the article justice.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Journalists are starting to uncover serious connections between Trump and organised Russian crime, now do you not see this as a problem for the sitting president


He was a global real estate investor, and had really sketchy businesses like "Trump University", and "Trump Steaks", and more.

He's likely to have organized crime connections all around the world.
Why are they insisting on so much focus on Russia? I watch American news, American news is all over Canadian news too - the media likes to mention the "many enemies of the USA".
The focus is on Russia, because they want Russia to be the scariest enemy....

Maybe they (media, people, etc), should have paid more attention to this man's background before they let him run for president....



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

quit trying to bait me. the source is trump jr. this is his own quote. anyone can find this info on multiple sites with a quick search. i know any source i give will be met with "fake news". also i am aware that context matters as occamsrazor pointed out. but this is an actual quote.
edit on 6-8-2017 by ilikenotebooks because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Snarl

Muellers investigation is all connected my dear. He is not off track.
I bet Manifort and Flynn had a hand in steering this investigation in the direction it's going.
Besides isn't the prime directive to follow the money?



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: snowspirit
some did...
other's, enough to get him into office it seems,
were more concerned about immigrants taking their jobs and raping their wives, muslims slapping us under sharia laws, schools magically turning their children into homos, women killing their unborn babies, and above all else...
HILLARY....
her health,
her emails,
and on and on....
they didn't care about the guy they were voting in, as long as his last name wasn't clinton!



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Non issues?
It's all important.
He's the flipping president for cryin out loud!
Every word he utters matters.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Ha ha.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Yeah the head side that thinks and the tail side that craps.
Alex is the tail side.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
Just ignore it, if it paints trump and his administration in a negative light it must be FAKE NEWS!! *Sarcasm*



Hell, literally anything trump and his supporters don't want to hear or see, is fake news!

This investigation is not a witch hunt, the only ones calling it that are trump and his supporters.


Here is Fox News Shepard Smith, calling trump out again, and the media did not lie.





posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: ilikenotebooks
a reply to: xuenchen

quit trying to bait me. the source is trump jr. this is his own quote. anyone can find this info on multiple sites with a quick search. i know any source i give will be met with "fake news". also i am aware that context matters as occamsrazor pointed out. but this is an actual quote.


Then source it.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Non issues?
It's all important.
He's the flipping president for cryin out loud!
Every word he utters matters.

Yes, non-issues. Do the investigation, STFU, let us know what you find. I know what you actually want is a trial and conviction in the court of public opinion whether he is guilty or not, but sorry, I will never back that.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: ilikenotebooks
a reply to: xuenchen

quit trying to bait me. the source is trump jr. this is his own quote. anyone can find this info on multiple sites with a quick search. i know any source i give will be met with "fake news". also i am aware that context matters as occamsrazor pointed out. but this is an actual quote.

Sorry, already debunked your quote. Took me all of 5 seconds to do so.

He was speaking about Russian real estate to a Russian newspaper while trying to bring the Brand to Russia. It's called fluffing. The quote is meaningless once context is added.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

Tax-payer funded fishing expedition confirmed.

You haven't looked have you?
Bayrock, Trump SoHo, Kushner, The Netherlands, Trump Tower, the Chinese Bank, Kazakhstan, Keystone pipeline, Israel, Khrapunov, Hermitage, Fusion, Ukraine RICO civil suits.....information made public because of latter, Deutsche Bank, 'money loans' money laundering............on and on, and on, and that's only stuff I have mentioned over the last year!

I should say that much of the news never escaped the business news sites, if it did escape conspiracy sites.

www.ft.com...
uk.businessinsider.com...
www.politico.com...
dutchreview.com...

Do you think for one minute that even the mainstream media don't have all this...and more, that they are reluctant to even mention yet?

edit on 6-8-2017 by smurfy because: Text.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: smurfy

I saw a lot of words, nothing about Trump colluding with Russia in the election in any illegal way.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: ilikenotebooks
a reply to: xuenchen

quit trying to bait me. the source is trump jr. this is his own quote. anyone can find this info on multiple sites with a quick search. i know any source i give will be met with "fake news". also i am aware that context matters as occamsrazor pointed out. but this is an actual quote.

Sorry, already debunked your quote. Took me all of 5 seconds to do so.

He was speaking about Russian real estate to a Russian newspaper while trying to bring the Brand to Russia. It's called fluffing. The quote is meaningless once context is added.

That's only an assumption based on your interpretation of the context.

What Trump Jr said, he said. No amount of twisting it around changes what his statement meant. As the article connected to the video in the OP shows, if it wasn't for the Russian mob and their investments, Trump would have been sunk in the 1990's.

To say Russian money makes up a disproportionate cross-section of their assets is putting it lightly, given the decades of financial support Trump has received from Russian oligarchs and the mob. Which I would like to add, are basically part of the Russian government.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
That's only an assumption based on your interpretation of the context.

The context itself does not change. I have no interpretation. I put it into context and once I did the statement became meaningless.


What Trump Jr said, he said. No amount of twisting it around changes what his statement meant.

It meant nothing. If you have actual evidence and not a sales pitch let me know. By the way I have a car I am selling, runs great, like new. I said it .. so I guess you should buy it ...



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: underwerks
That's only an assumption based on your interpretation of the context.

The context itself does not change. I have no interpretation. I put it into context and once I did the statement became meaningless.


What Trump Jr said, he said. No amount of twisting it around changes what his statement meant.

It meant nothing. If you have actual evidence and not a sales pitch let me know. By the way I have a car I am selling, runs great, like new. I said it .. so I guess you should buy it ...

The quote by Trump Jr is:


Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”


So, when Trump Jr said they see a lot of money pouring in from Russia, he didn't mean they see a lot of money pouring in from Russia?

Even though financial records show Russian money has been pouring into the Trump organization for years?




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: underwerks




To say Russian money makes up a disproportionate cross-section of their assets is putting it lightly, given the decades of financial support Trump has received from Russian oligarchs and the mob. Which I would like to add, are basically part of the Russian government.


I was waiting for that subtle piece of sophistry to rear its head. Now the Russian mob is a part of the Russian government. This is the result of the insinuation that every Russian is a part of the Russian government, a Russian spy, a russian oligarch. A lie, of course.



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