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Trump's new Immigration Policy may be his most Controversial act yet

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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: CB328

The cost of living is so high because the feds have been spending like drunken sailors for decades driving down the value of our money. Especially since Nixon took us off the gold standard. Those not on the dole have less children because each one brings more expenses. For those on government assistance each child is more government handouts. We are incentivizing the wrong population groups.




posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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Think of all those successful, legal immigrant restaurateurs who speak little English, living the American dream, who under this idiotic Trump idea, would never even have had access to immigration because they were not smart enough and didn't speak fluent English. Hell, think of his own hotel employees who speak little to no English! I mean, they cook the food in his expensive hotel restaurants, clean his rooms, and launder his linens every day on his payroll. According to him, they are not worthy of being in this country.



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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Part of the problem is that our budget is a bit like a ponzi scheme.

As baby boomers retire, a shrinking population creates deflation.



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: slider1982
Low IQ people producing low IQ off spring that intern need hand outs for even the most basic of living needs. It does not need to be this way and countries such as Japan and Taiwan are an example, I bet a majority of folks here think Taiwan is a rice field with a sweat shop in the middle?.. Fact is the town's and cities would put many "first world" countries to shame. It is a small country that is fairly dense in population but the education system is good and the people are happy to work to gain what they have.. Japan is the same.. Now import "in large numbers" mass amounts of migrants, all with zero skill, eduction or even the want to assimilate and see where these countries are in 30 years, that is before you have the cultural issues and a regressive left rhetoric pushing the agenda..


It's interesting you bring up Japan here. I assume you're aware of their population demographics? In the next century they're going to see a massive reduction in their population and as people age they'll be left with only a few working citizens to pay for all the gen x and millennial retirees. Japan is near the bottom of the world at 1.46 births per woman. What this effectively means, is that their population is decining by nearly 0.2% per year due to the combination of a low birth rate and almost no immigration. In 50 years their population will have fallen from 128 million to 90 million and 60% of those will be of retirement age. They're not in a good situation, their long term outlook as a result is 36 million working Japanese people come 2060. That's almost a complete extinction of their culture considering they currently have 100 million working.

For them it's pretty much irreversable. For most other developed nations there's still time. People simply aren't going to start having kids, because there's simply less interest out there in being a parent (and it's not due to taxes, I'll address it further down). However, we can still bring people in. Immigrants are excellent workers and add to the national population. Second generation is largely assimilated and third generation tends to be fully assimilated which means that even with a declining population we could be ok 50 years into the future, unlike Japan. The US for reference is at 1.86 births per woman, however sustaining a population requires about 2.2 births and growing it requires more. Our current immigration rates are too low given our birth rates and it will lead to an inverted pyramid of population demographics in the future.

Now, as for the reason that birth rates are declining, it has nothing to do with taxes. Taxes are completely irrelevant, the US has one of the lowest tax rates in the world and we are at historically low taxes on top of that. What it has to do with is there's things people would rather do than be a parent. Who wants to make that type of financial and time commitment to a parasite? Thanks to things like birth control, people are free to have relationships without getting tangled up with kids. Women are free to go out, work, and be independent... they're not forced into being home and baby makers. Men can make better financial choices rather than have a baby catastrophy on hand. On top of that, entertainment has reached the point where there's legitimately better things to do than make kids. Movies, TV, shows, internet, travel... all are more interesting ways to pass the time.

What most studies have shown is that when people have more things to live for, they're less likely to try and produce another generation just to survive. Resulting in fewer kids and later in life. From a survival standpoint it makes sense. When life is short and danger is high, the winning survival strategy is to take a shotgun approach, pop out kids, and hope a few survive. When conditions are better you look after yourself, build up a home, and then focus/nuture fewer offspring.

Edit: I wanted to address the IQ comment too. We are not plagued with low IQ offspring these days. You can always find outliers who are dumb, but schooling has improved, and the population gets smarter too. IQ is actually a normalized scale to 100, the average gain is of about 2 points per year. Meaning that a kid from 1996 would score an 80 on todays test. It's pretty impressive really that we're improving at such a fast rate. Better teaching methods have helped, but so has better access to information.

Also, all of this needs the usual IQ disclaimer too. IQ is not a measure of how smart you are, it's barely a measure of anything at all, but if you have to put meaning to it, the closest meaning it has is that it represents your potential to learn quickly. People with lower IQ's outsmart people with higher IQ's all the time... it doesn't really mean anything in terms of academic success.

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posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: ADSE255
Explosive population growth is never good for any society especially one mixed with backward cultures and cultish values who won't fit into said host Country.


You think American culture of crass materialism, hedonism, crime, is so perfect?


America might gain from adopting some cultural norms of other societies.



posted on Aug, 7 2017 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: ADSE255
Explosive population growth is never good for any society especially one mixed with backward cultures and cultish values who won't fit into said host Country.


You think American culture of crass materialism, hedonism, crime, is so perfect?


America might gain from adopting some cultural norms of other societies.


So you're saying that mixing in backward repressive woman demeaning foreigners into westernized nation's will somehow fix that? wtfu buddy.



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