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American Leftists Are Fascists Marching ‘Under the Banner of Anti-Fascism

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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

It might occur to you that way. But then again... is that so? I think you just want me to believe in stupidity when in fact, you're just pretending to be an idiot.

It's a good fassade though, I'll give you that. Kinda comfortable to dumb things down, innit?





posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I've come to generally ignore your lunacy... but please tell me where I talked anything about illegal immigration or accused anyone of racism. I did neither.

I don't live in Mexico, I don't care what their immigration laws are. I think our immigration laws are flawed and would like to see it take much less time and money to become a legal citizen and I don't care whether they are left or right wing.

I would imagine that the majority of Cubans here are Capitalist and anti-Castro cuz why would you leave Cuba otherwise? I liked the policy of one foot on the sand, I don't think people should be forced to live where they aren't happy or can't flourish in the ways that are natural to them.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Imo, communism & socialism are one & the same. They both steal from one to give to another. Socialism is just a rebranding of communism. Communism cannot work without government because few are willing to give up what they have worked for without just compensation. The only way to do that is by the threat of some sort of government.

I believe in libertarian views of the right to property, privacy, non-violence & a free market. What we have now is not capitalism (free market), its croni-capitalism (fascism) or corporations controlling government, instead of the people controlling government. In the USA, we have not had a free market since 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created. we have not had all our constitutional rights since 1933 when the constitution was suspended. We have not had sound money since 1971, when we went off the gold standard.

The only way communism exists is with government & some aspects of a free market, like we see today in China. It doesn't work well in places like Venezuela, N. Korea, Cuba & the former Soviet Union because there is/was no incentive to work or just compensation for work. The only thing less efficient than large corporations is government.


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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

No.


The Chinese Communist Party considers China to be in the initial stages of socialism.

Politics of China

And they would be the first ones to talk about communism if possible, hence the name.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

Your assessment is wrong though, the only way communism exist is without a government to regulate things and create hierarchies and classes



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: JBIZZ

Your assessment is wrong though, the only way communism exist is without a government to regulate things and create hierarchies and classes


But Grandpaw Karl said different.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Under this logic communism doesn't exist, has never existed & never will exist.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

The countries you are stating aren't communistic. They are totalitarian regimes or were.

Basically true communism doesn't work in an industrialized economy. You will find true communism in small hunter gatherer tribes...where workload is shared and the impetus is for survival of the tribe as opposed to profit of the chief.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: JBIZZ
Imo, communism & socialism are one & the same. They both steal from one to give to another.

All governments do that.


In the USA, we have not had a free market since...

...never.


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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: kelbtalfenek

What if one of these tribesmen decide they don't want to share the deer they hunted/killed because others in the tribe are not pulling their weight? Would this tribesman be governed by the rest of the tribe? I'm pretty sure these tribes have some form of government. The fact that they have chiefs proves this.

Under the definition of communism, it doesn't exist, never has existed & never will exist.
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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

It has existed in smaller autonomous spaces, that is why this futile argument of 'X communist country" as somehow "proof" is wrong



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

1 I am not a Marxist

2 their theory was that the state will 'wither away' after installing a transitional 'socialism' dictated by the proletariat that would eventually lead to communism which is the abolishing of the state



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

No government's but it is based on a voluntary horizontally decentralized community consensus, not a representative democracy or republic



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Please give me proof of where no one was governed by another. Even in basic family structures the parents govern the children. Its human nature. Communism can't exist according to the definition you provided. By the way, other sources have different definitions of communism, which classify Venezuela, Cuba, N. Korea, China & the former Soviet Union as being communist.
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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

What sources, because 'communism' calls for the absence of state, anything other than that is an altered version



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: JBIZZ

No government's but it is based on a voluntary horizontally decentralized community consensus, not a representative democracy or republic



So where is secret location where this is working ?

p.s. I know.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

There is no place that is actively communism.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

There are 2 phases of communism. The 1st phase being what I consider communism & the 2nd phase being what you consider communism. The difference is the 2nd phase is unreachable, since society can't exist without some form of government.

www.britannica.com...



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.


And Marxist theory advocates a transitional state of socialism dictated by the proletariat while the state withers away until full communism can be reached and the State and governments abolished



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: JBIZZ
a reply to: kelbtalfenek

What if one of these tribesmen decide they don't want to share the deer they hunted/killed because others in the tribe are not pulling their weight? Would this tribesman be governed by the rest of the tribe? I'm pretty sure these tribes have some form of government. The fact that they have chiefs proves this.

Under the definition of communism, it doesn't exist, never has existed & never will exist.


They don't decide they're not going to share. If that happens, they are ousted from the community. (Or don't you know how that works?) If you're not going to be part of the community, then you are NOT part of the community.

Government? I'm not an anthropologist, but having a "chief" that settles disputes and relates a tribe's oral history and knows things...That doesn't sound non-communist to me. Perhaps you can explain your viewpoint?

Pure communism does exist, you're just too blind to acknowledge it.



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