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American Leftists Are Fascists Marching ‘Under the Banner of Anti-Fascism

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posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy


originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Kali74

So leftists don't want a larger government, don't want higher taxes, want more freedoms, more freedoms for gun rights, and fewer laws?

Wow!

Who the #### knew that leftists were for that!

I am blown away!


Missed this post.

Correct we don't want bigger but smaller more efficient government.

Unless you're a billionaire with a billion tax loopholes we don't want you, specifically you, to pay higher taxes and we want more say over how taxes are spent.

Yes more freedoms.

There's not much point to gun laws.

There's too many laws.


That's 3 out of our 5 lefties and 2 anarchists in flatout agreement with your points, DBCrawlboy.

Learn to agree on something, DickBCheney. You'll get your A for the effort though.


I like my question so much that I'll ask you. . .

Do you think your ideological stance provides more freedom than my ideological stance would?




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



Ok, I'll play.

No and yes. First, you'd see some serious cuts on your freedom to exploit and wage war on people.

Thing is, that it will deliver more freedom with regards to it's quality and the quantity of people enjoying it. Which is why we'll see more freedom indeed.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

So a loss of freedoms initially, but a promise of future freedoms later.





posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy



Ok, I'll play.

No and yes. First, you'd see some serious cuts on your freedom to exploit and wage war on people.

Thing is, that it will deliver more freedom with regards to it's quality and the quantity of people enjoying it. Which is why we'll see more freedom indeed.


You're only going to confuse him more and give him little bottle rockets that he thinks are big boys... lol.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



DBSpartacus,

you'd still have your freedom to start a civil uprising, whazzup? Remember, remember the legions of formal slaves having your back. Until they don't.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

I'm not the one defending an ideology that would deny freedoms.

This is fun.


Dance some more. I promise I'll clap this time.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

I'm not sure a brick wall is confusable, perturbable pertubations or not.



#HashTagGraffiti




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Deny freedoms... you're going for the bait only?

I knew you'd bite there, let's talk about your definition of the freedom to exploit and wage war on the people. Any ideas?



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Mine, yes



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy

Deny freedoms... you're going for the bait only?

I knew you'd bite there, let's talk about your definition of the freedom to exploit and wage war on the people. Any ideas?





Nice try.

I will always err on the side of more freedoms, rather than less. It makes life so much easier.

Obviously you and others don't.

So any future assertion I make concerning "anti-freedom" ideologies would be justified.

If asking a question about freedoms causes so much consternation, then the only conclusion I can come to is that "freedom" isn't a priority in your ideological bent.

*applauds*

Dance some more!

I'm enjoying this!




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: DBCowboy

Mine, yes


You, as an anarchist, I could believe. Even though I default for freedoms, am against many ridiculous laws, I would support the fundamental rule of law, while the anarchist would not.

So I will give this one to you.

*tips hat*



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

But you do realize that the freedom to oppress/ exploit people isn't exactly tangible at all? Neither is the freedom to wage war on the people btw.

Before you jump to the conclusion that I wasn't fcking with you there for the lulz, you should be able to elaborate on the actual loss of any freedom (in case my snarky remarks would be implemented).

Cool. Now I'm having fun, too!


edit on 6-8-2017 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: kelbtalfenek

And you're the one who can't have fun with some... whatever that was. Lighten up, the irony of demands for 2 scoops of protected monologues is lost on you. Lost. LOST!!! Is it an island? I want more icecream!



I will admit the irony was completely lost. I really didn't connect the 2 scoops thing with the POTUS. My apologies.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

You're picking a strawman and are attempting to redefine freedoms as simply the freedom to cause harm in order to justify your ideological beliefs.

Why not just embrace the fact that freedoms, as a whole, aren't really big on your list.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Kali74


I find it ironig how left-wingers like yourself want to claim that because the right wants to stop illegal immigration" that we are all "racists"... We have seen the left call racists even if you are hispanic, and even if you are a Mexican who actually lean to the right in politics, and there are many such Mexicans and hispanics. Yet you forget the fact that Mexico has even stricter laws against illegal immigration... But of course, the left, nor Mexico say "see, Mexico is a racist country"... You all have double standards that only apply to the U.S. but not to everyone else.

I also find it ironic how the left always complains that the right "is racist against migrants", but the left is even more racist against migrants who tend to be republicans. Heck, in these same forums i have read several people claim that "the over 2 million Cubans living in Florida are nothing but CIA agents, they are all lying, etc, etc. Or, only communist Cubans (who are part of the elite in Cuba) and tourists know the truth about Cuba...

Heck, this past election the majority of Cubans voted for Trump for President because we have seen what happens to a country that adopts the ideals the left want to implement, and have been implementing in left-wing states/cities.

Many people in the left become rabid racists when hispanics lean to the right. But of course, those leftists are not called racist by the "left-wing media"...


edit on 6-8-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
I mean, no offence, but people really shouldn't use these words if they don't know what they mean.


Firstly, the 'left' in American politics does not exist. The democrats are a party of the center-right.

Second, you cannot be a leftist and a fascist at the same time.

Third, most leftists are not in fact obsessed with identity politics, this is a smear the far-right uses to discredit anybody that is not like them. Witness the way the word 'snowflake' is thrown around by the far-right.

Fourth, if you cannot see why people marching to stop fascism is EXACTLY THE SAME AS NAZIS then sorry, but frankly I don't have the words anymore to explain how stupid that is.


The American 'left' is not inspired by Nazism. For heaven's sake.

If you want to ask what happened to the actual American Nazis, the ANP, WUFENs, etc, then that's potentially an interesting question. I'm pretty certain all of these white power groups didn't join the Democratic party or start campainging for racial and sexual equality.


And please, remind me who the Neo-Nazis voted for again? That's right, your boy Trump. 'Heil Trump!' they shouted, whilst giving him the Hitler salute.


Thank you! Yes, the Democrats are not left, but center right wingers. Both parties are right wing, which is hilarious because right wingers often try to claim that both parties are left, the opposite of reality on actual policy and procedure.

I agree with you that most real leftists are not focused on identity politics, but instead things like economic class, anti war and anti imperialism, etc.

It's the faux left that is focused on it, or useful idiots. In fact, many of us leftists AND many conservatives now believe that while there are real racial or gender issues historically, current day identity politics is being used as a weapon to split people from unity and keep them from focusing on the real issue: most of us of all backgrounds are being oppressed by an elite oligarchy.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14


Thank you! Yes, the Democrats are not left, but center right wingers. Both parties are right wing, which is hilarious because right wingers often try to claim that both parties are left, the opposite of reality on actual policy and procedure.


LOL...wow, another one trying to change reality because he/she doesn't want to accept facts...


originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
I agree with you that most real leftists are not focused on identity politics, but instead things like economic class, anti war and anti imperialism, etc.


Which is why the majority of democrats in power have backed far left wing groups like BLM... Several senators have even protested with BLM... Obama backed BLM even when they were openly calling for the deaths of police officers and all white people... This is evidence that the majority of democrats are actual very far left.

As for your claim that the right "claims the right is leftist"...what in the world are you talking about?... There are RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) who happen to be very progressive in the Republican party. If you look at the votes of those people, like Paul Ryan, almost half or more of their votes are "progressive".

Right now we have a RINO, Mueller, working with democrats to try to depose President Trump. That does not mean "the right is leftist"... What it means is that globalists have infiltrated very "progressive" senators in the Republican party to try to stop changes done by Republicans. We have been seen this happen now that Trump is in power, and democrats alongside RINOs have been working together to stop President Trump from changing "progressive" legislation such as "obamacare".



originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
It's the faux left that is focused on it, or useful idiots. In fact, many of us leftists AND many conservatives now believe that while there are real racial or gender issues historically, current day identity politics is being used as a weapon to split people from unity and keep them from focusing on the real issue: most of us of all backgrounds are being oppressed by an elite oligarchy.


That's what the Chinese communists said, they went after the capitalist people and look at the history of China under communist rule...

That's what the Cuban communists/revolutionary also said, claiming that if they were in power everyone will prosper as the money of the "capitalists" would be redistributed... Look at the history of Cuba under communist rule... before communism Cuba was the jewel of the caribbean. Now it is a just another left-wing dictatorship...

That's what the soviets (communists) said, they also redistributed the wealth of the "capitalists" and look at the history of the Soviet Union under communist rule...

That's what the Chavistas/communists said... They redistributed the wealth of the "capitalists" and look at the history of Venezuela under communist rule...

Seriously, when are left-wingers going to realize that their "experiment always fails, implants left-wing dictatorships, oppresses the majority of people, and makes the majority of people poorer, hungry, and even starving...


edit on 6-8-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

It doesn't in places like Venezuela, Cuba, N. Korea & the former Soviet Union. All communism does is take over the means of production (takes over corporations) & deincentivises the will of the people to work. Though people will work if threatened by their government with a gun to their head. All communism does for the people is make them all equally poor, while the powers at be on top live in luxury. The only way communism works is with aspects of a free market, like in communist China, which still has a government & corporations. Imo, the only thing less efficient than large corporations is government.



posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: kelbtalfenek

No worries, glad to see you've catched the drift.



Broom. Broom.




posted on Aug, 6 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

You are wrong, the places you named are State-Socialism, not communism, if you look into the beginning theory of communism it says "Abolish the state"




In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal") is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state.



Governments removed...




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