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American Leftists Are Fascists Marching ‘Under the Banner of Anti-Fascism

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posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Hopefully you are not under the illusion that the human species can coexist under a system of Anarchy and that the end result would not mirror what history has taught us.

Even ancient peoples had a tribal system to benefit the group, since survival mandates we must work as a group to survive.




posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Define equal rights. Are you indicating equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? There is a huge difference, you know.
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posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Define equal rights. Are you indicating equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? There is a huge difference, you know.

Of course equality of opportunity.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Define equal rights. Are you indicating equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? There is a huge difference, you know.

Of course equality of opportunity.


Don't forget "Access to"




posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Define equal rights. Are you indicating equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? There is a huge difference, you know.

Of course equality of opportunity.


Don't forget "Access to"


Yep of course we all should have equal access to opportunities.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Well, then we agree I suppose. One recent news item that has me internally conflicted is the tidbit that Harvard University, for the first time ever, will welcome a class that is a majority of disadvantaged minorites. Buried in that story was the fact that many Asian and Caucasian students were denied entry despite having near perfect SAT scores and exemplary extracurricular portfolios. So on the surface it would appear that everybody has an equal opportunity to go to Harvard. But is that really the case? Is being born Black or Latino now a trump card to gaining entry into a more prestigious job or educational facility now? If that is the case, is this really equality in opportunity? This is an important question, because strictly left-leaning groups have been pushing this idea for 50 years now.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

Yeah I get what you are saying. I disagree with reverse discrimination. Entry should be based on merit, not on race or anything. Though I do understand why they want that. The black people have been discriminated against for too long.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

So then the Left's best antidote for discrimination is more discrimination? Wait...I thought the Left gave us luminaries, visionaries, and consummate thinkers? Is this the best that they cpuld come up with to fix this problem? Bear in mind that this is just one of many issues that the Left has dropped the ball on. Not saying that the right is perfect either, but we are currently focused on the Left.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

I don't know if there are many on the left are for reverse discrimination. I'm a liberal myself and I disagree with it. It could just be mainly from the BLM and SJWs.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

So it basically comes down to respect. You respect me and my ideas and my lifestyle, and I'll reciprocate. The problem is, is that our so-called representatives, and the special intersts and talking heads both Left and Right that drive them, stopped respecting you and I a long time ago.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

anarchy is not just a 'system' that we seek to 'install' it is not a 'vanguard party' or a platform, it is destroying all forms of authority and spooks.

and there have been various autonomous spaces that have thrived before capitalism, colonialism and imperialism etc



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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The problem is, is that our so-called representatives, and the special intersts and talking heads both Left and Right that drive them, stopped respecting you and I a long time ago.

That is so much true. They just don't care about us anymore. The divide that the Establishment has been pushing is getting ridiculous. We see evidence of that here.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz

Second, you cannot be a leftist and a fascist at the same time.



Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters

You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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It's just a coincidence that ANTIFA exploded on to the scene the moment Hillary lost the election. Where were they the previous 8 years while Obama was continuing Bush's policies of drone bombing civilians, destabilizing countries and pushing bills like the NDAA?

The fact is ANTIFA only got a platform after the election because it was adopted by the radical left and now consists of mostly butt-hurt Dems and dumb, impressionable kids trying to fit in at liberal universities.

Haven't seen a worse bunch of useful idiots since the Sturmabteilung.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
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Firstly, the 'left' in American politics does not exist. The democrats are a party of the center-right.


lol... conservatives are center-right. In fact the Republican party in the United States is part of the "center-right political movement".


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The International Democrat Union, an alliance of centre-right political parties, including the British Conservative Party, the Republican Party of the United States, the Conservative Party of Canada, the Liberal Party of Australia, the New Zealand National Party, and Christian democratic parties, amongst others across the world, is committed to the principles that "democratic societies provide individuals throughout the world with the best conditions for political liberty, personal freedom, equality of opportunity, and economic development under the rule of law; and therefore being committed to advancing the social and political values on which democratic societies are founded, including the basic personal freedoms and human rights, as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; in particular, the right of free speech, organization, assembly, and non-violent dissent; the right to free elections and the freedom to organise effective parliamentary opposition to government; the right to a free and independent media; the right to religious belief; equality before the law; and individual opportunity and prosperity."[5]
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Centre-right politics


originally posted by: Painterz
Second, you cannot be a leftist and a fascist at the same time.


Says who?... Hitler was a socialist, which is part of the left, and he was a fascist... Mussolini was a socialist, and he was a fascist... Your claim that you cannot be in the left and a fascist at the same time is nothing more than ignoring the fact that fascism is a branch of socialism, and socialism is a left-wing political branch.


originally posted by: Painterz
Third, most leftists are not in fact obsessed with identity politics, this is a smear the far-right uses to discredit anybody that is not like them. Witness the way the word 'snowflake' is thrown around by the far-right.


The word "snowflake" is used by the right because many in the left resort to violence and resort to becoming drama queens when people don't follow leftwing ideology


originally posted by: Painterz

The American 'left' is not inspired by Nazism. For heaven's sake.
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And please, remind me who the Neo-Nazis voted for again? That's right, your boy Trump. 'Heil Trump!' they shouted, whilst giving him the Hitler salute.


Humm, let's see... BLM is an open communist group which voted for Obama, I guess Obama must be a communist. Not to mention the fact that Trump never backed the NAZIs, but Obama did back BLM, even when BLM has been calling for the deaths of police officers, and white people in general.


edit on 5-8-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Greven

Lulz.


Yelling at people you disagree with is not forcible suppression.


Because that's all antifa has done, right?

Mmmkay.

Again, what have they done?

I've been horribly busy this year and quite frankly haven't followed every bit of news.


Guess you had a bump in the head and are suffering from amnesia? Here is a thread you participated in where an ANTIFA chic got her ass handed to her for bashing the facsh.

AboveTopSecret

Er, that was about an 'Antifa Chic' who was punched in the face by not-Antifa, along with a video of not-Antifa running down and beating up 'Antifa' people.

Not really the best example of Antifa being violent.



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

You have been proven wrong, Antifa has been a worldwide synthesis, saying we consist of "butt-hurt Dems and dumb, impressionable kids" again shows your ignorance, I have stated numerous times, we consist of a majority (over 90%) anarchists, we hate all presidents, we are not "Muh #Resistance" that is the Liberals.

The only reasons it is getting any kind of "Media Attention" is because of 1 Social Media, and 2 the "Media" is using it as manipulation of this "Trumps supporters vs Hillary Supporters" which is a false narrative.

What you may not seem to understand is Antifa is not a group, it is not an organisation, it is a decentralized synthesis of individuals (majority anarchist) that organise for an action



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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Well of course they are . But keep in mind that it's actually the ruthlessly totalitarian and extremist Progressives( yeah, right) who are the real fascists . The old school liberals were annoying but pretty decent folk and there may be a few left out there
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posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: XAnarchistX

Separate Question, do pizza rolls taste better when somebody else microwaves them?


Nevermind, saw that is was directed to a certain member.
edit on 5-8-2017 by pompel9 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 5 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

For a "True" "Anarchist", you come out very "competitive".




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