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Special Counsel Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
www.wsj.com...

Very interesting.


From your link


This is yet a further sign that there is a long-term, large-scale series of prosecutions being contemplated and being pursued by the special counsel,” said Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas.

“If there was already a grand jury in Alexandria looking at Flynn, there would be no need to reinvent the wheel for the same guy.
This suggests that the investigation is bigger and wider than Flynn, perhaps substantially so.”




posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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BUT...ya know...it's JUST a nothing burger TOPPED with a grand jury and a SIDE of 16 prosecutors....
a reply to: DanteGaland

Good points.

I am wondering how the alt-right and the White House will spin this? I suppose like they have spun every other scandal:
1. It didn't happen.
2. It is a lie.
3. It happened, but it is still a lie.
4. FAKE NEWS.
5. The people who are saying this are lying.
6. Ok, it happened, but it isn't a crime.
7. etc.....

Oh, where is Spicy when we need him?



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: bknapple32
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I would argue hes done nothing but act like he has something to worry about.


He fired Comey " cause Russia"

He blasted Sessions for recusing himself "cause Russia"

He edited his son's lie on the Russian meeting in June " cause Russia"

Flynn got swept away "cause Russia"

Oh and the entire WH called this a fake story..... So fake that we now have a grand jury.


Wow...got any evidence to backup the Cause Russia stuff? Flynn has been gone since the beginning...outside of that it is all "official sources"....LOL



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

The new grand jury is empaneled in DC. More convenient than a Virginia based one.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

For one. Trump HIMSELF said "cause russia" with comey



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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Well, impanelling a Grand Jury is one thing, getting a conviction afterwards is quite another.

But anyway, hopefully this will bring to a head the current brouhaha and things might calm down a bit (for better or worse).



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I do not think a sitting president can be indicted
A sitting president can be impeached

I could see a grand jury for flynn, or manafort
Whatever Mueller is doing apparently more than just his word is needed



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: TacSite18

Or they did this to draw attention away from DWS and her spy ring in washington.


Yeah, that would be my guess. I mean, because Trump is so upset by her that he fired Flynn, fired Comey, threatened to fire Sessions, dictated his son's denial of the meeting with the Russians and the smoking gun email, has admitted that he has done all this over Russia, all because of DWS.

Yeah, I see it all clearly now.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Here is a leak, just hitting.

A copy of a letter to Susan Rice from McMaster.

BOOM

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Now we know two rats names.

Question is will they be prosecuted?

Or will,it be a "matter"


Wow....here....go ahead and do whatever you want Susan...


“I hereby waive the requirement that you must have a ‘need-to-know’ to access any classified information contained in items you ‘originated, reviewed, signed or received while serving,’ as National Security Adviser,” the letter said. The letter also states that the “NSC will continue to work with you to ensure the appropriate security clearance documentation remains on file to allow you access to classified information.”



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Here is a leak, just hitting.

A copy of a letter to Susan Rice from McMaster.

BOOM

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Now we know two rats names.

Question is will they be prosecuted?

Or will,it be a "matter"


Reads to me like they are allowing her to keep her security clearance as she moves to her next position.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: introvert

And then gateway pundit threw in what was needed to make readers think this is some unmasking bombshell



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Xcathdra

I do not think a sitting president can be indicted
A sitting president can be impeached

I could see a grand jury for flynn, or manafort
Whatever Mueller is doing apparently more than just his word is needed


This could reflect BADLY on Trump...

ENOUGH to even get the GOP-controlled congress to support impeachment.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

This indicates the investigation is ramping up. If Mueller needs to subpoena documents or hear testimony they are already impanaled and ready to go.
Sounds,like he's settling in for a long haul and will need to get people under oath.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Here is a leak, just hitting.

A copy of a letter to Susan Rice from McMaster.

BOOM

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Now we know two rats names.

Question is will they be prosecuted?

Or will,it be a "matter"


How is this on topic?

Really, I want to know how this fits into the topic of the OP?

Is this another of the predictable "deflections?"



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

It is, he went and made his own thread on it now too



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: introvert




Reads to me like they are allowing her to keep her security clearance as she moves to her next position.

That is actually one of the funniest things I have read at ATS.
Next position being in the trump admin right?



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

One of the anti Trump news networks is saying that they've learned Mueller has found a big discrepancy trumps finances. That is going to be the the focus of the newly-formed grand jury.

Sounds like Bill Clinton all over again. start out looking for one thing end up getting him on something else.

I'm okay with a president Pence. Key legislative agenda will still be accomplished. I saw a thread the other day stating that he was getting geared up to move into the White House, or something like that.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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Facts are that he has a heavy hitting financial lineup of a lot of former Clinton "associates"....


What facts are those? Where do you get these facts about Mueller's grand jury? Sources, if you please.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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Yup, it is so. Even more so since it was confirmed Trump was not the target of the investigation per Comey and the intelligence committee.


Trump does not have to be the target of the investigation to have attempted to interfere in it.



If the city manager fire the police chief, he is not obstructing any ongoing investigations being run by the department. Comey oversaw day to day operations and was not involved in field investigations.


If the city manager did it because the chief would not stop a particular investigation, that could be very concerning.

Not to mention a sign of corruption.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Here is a leak, just hitting.

A copy of a letter to Susan Rice from McMaster.

BOOM

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Now we know two rats names.

Question is will they be prosecuted?

Or will,it be a "matter"


Start a thread on this. If true, it's a bombshell.




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