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originally posted by: UKTruth
just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to.
Well, you see, Aborigines don't own the land.They belong to it. It's like their mother. See those rocks? Been standing there for 600 million years. Still be there when you and I are gone. So arguing over who owns them is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
originally posted by: UKTruth
just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to.
Personally, I think Mick Dundee said it best when he said:
Well, you see, Aborigines don't own the land.They belong to it. It's like their mother. See those rocks? Been standing there for 600 million years. Still be there when you and I are gone. So arguing over who owns them is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: UKTruth
Of course, but he still said it best.
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
there are tons of Americans who wouldn't be able to pass that merit system but nothing is done about their ignorance.
Why would they need to, they're the REAL Americans
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
there are tons of Americans who wouldn't be able to pass that merit system but nothing is done about their ignorance.
Why would they need to, they're the REAL Americans
That comment you replied to is actually an important one because it reveals the mind set. There is no concept of nationality or nation with some people. i.e. no USA at all, just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to. It's why the debates about immigration policy or foreign policy can be so strange.
There is no concept of nationality or nation with some people. i.e. no USA at all, just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to.
originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: UKTruth
There is no concept of nationality or nation with some people. i.e. no USA at all, just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to.
Indeed. I call this type of thinking, the "John Lennon's Imagine" syndrome:
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace...
It sounds "right", it sounds "lovely", it sounds "idyllic"....but it's actually farfetched and impossible at this point in time considering the kinds of people that inhabit the world right now.
Would you really want that kind of world anyway? Think about it.
If every person on the planet had the same exact undifferentiated ideology regarding government, religion, social structure, philosophical views, economic viewpoints, etc. we could all just crowd into that "tower of babel" and exist as One.
I'm not sure I would want that One World Order.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
there are tons of Americans who wouldn't be able to pass that merit system but nothing is done about their ignorance.
Why would they need to, they're the REAL Americans
That comment you replied to is actually an important one because it reveals the mind set. There is no concept of nationality or nation with some people. i.e. no USA at all, just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to. It's why the debates about immigration policy or foreign policy can be so strange.
I'm sorry. You are a Brit. You have no idea what is and isn't a real American in the first place, so your input here is unnecessary.
originally posted by: UKTruth
See that house you live in - it will be standing long after you have gone.
I'd like a room please. I don't have anything to offer, but if you could feed me and make sure I am comfortable that would be great... oh and i can't pay for anything, you'll need to increase your household budget to accommodate me.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
there are tons of Americans who wouldn't be able to pass that merit system but nothing is done about their ignorance.
Why would they need to, they're the REAL Americans
That comment you replied to is actually an important one because it reveals the mind set. There is no concept of nationality or nation with some people. i.e. no USA at all, just a land mass and resources that everyone in the world should be entitled to. It's why the debates about immigration policy or foreign policy can be so strange.
I'm sorry. You are a Brit. You have no idea what is and isn't a real American in the first place, so your input here is unnecessary.
No need to be sorry - you don't believe you have a country so obviously you can't really believe you are American.
Pretty simple really.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
originally posted by: UKTruth
See that house you live in - it will be standing long after you have gone.
I'd like a room please. I don't have anything to offer, but if you could feed me and make sure I am comfortable that would be great... oh and i can't pay for anything, you'll need to increase your household budget to accommodate me.
This is not even a reasonable argument though. You're asking me to personally support you using my private funds and in my private establishment. The immigration policy right now and years gone by, is making no such assurances...simply that they have the right to make it on their own.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
originally posted by: UKTruth
Can you imagine one of these ideologues if some stranger just turned up and started using their land and resources
...at which point though, the cops would be called and they would be promptly arrested. Problem solved.
originally posted by: UKTruth
No, your house and land is not yours.
It will be there after you have left.
You have no right to it.
But even if I accept your property rights, I'll just camp out on your land then and you don't need to feed me.. deal?