Do White Men Really Deserve To Vote?

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Well, it's difficult to extort money used to subsidize Kept Voters from people who don't feel like they've done anything wrong to warrant such theft.

Racism is the "in" thing now. Against white people at least.

Anyone else and that'd be racist.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

As a woman, it's pure revenge and nothing else.

For one thing, no woman alive today has been "repressed" from voting, neither has any minority despite the popular cry about proof of citizenship.

Heck, perhaps we ought to let African-Americans just plain enslave white Americans to "teach us what it is like" despite the fact that no one alive has suffered under those conditions in the US, not legally, so no one knows what it is like to be a legal slave.

It is simple hatred and revenge wish fulfillment fantasy.

we are forced to vote down here in aus, or face a fine.

im cool with not voting. its a one horse race no matter who the jocky is. but tell me i cant vote because im white, ill sho0w you my privilege as a low income living day to day wetjala.. thats white man, to non west aussies.

i honestly cant believe where this world is headed... boxes for skin colour and the self admitting sjw jackboots are there to make sure no one steps out of line... pigs bum.

Ill prepared post withdrawn

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: introvert

LMAO! Hard work leading to success equals "white privilege" yeah, no, whatever... I'm stating a simple statistical fact... one can look at it in two ways. A phantom "white privilege" argument which is purely based in coddling Kept Voters and keeping their gravy train going via socially embraced excuses abdicating them of responsibility for their personal failures and shortcomings... OR it can be viewed as a screwball system in which the people putting the most effort and money into the system, the providers, are also blamed for all of the country's woes.

If being blamed for everything is a privilege... well, perhaps we should redefine the word because there's no privilege in that bullcrap.

All due respect, but I think that went well over your head and you only added more fuel to that fire. You are giving more credence to those that push the "white privilege" narrative by calling them screw-ups, without any consideration of past grievances against certain demographics.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Such things are not thought exercise. They are pure revenge porn.

I like to give the benefit of the doubt Ket. So upon reading your statement, I returned to the article and read it again.

However one can’t be sure if withdrawing the white man’s vote could be considered a “wrong”. Furthermore, the point here that has to be made is that banning white men from voting temporarily will help them understand systemic injustice and help them become better, more empathetic allies to the social justice cause.

She states clearly that she is''not sure'' that withdrawing white men's votes could be considered a ''wrong' (when to me it would be) and then goes on to say in the next sentence ''will'' rather than ''would''. I take back my earlier interpretation and agree with you that the piece IS INDEED sexist reventge porn.

a reply to: introvert

No, it didn't go over my head. They can take their grievances and shove them up their asses like we all are expected to do. I didn't take a whip to anyone and nobody picked my crops for me... it's 2017. You succeed, pat yourself on the back for the hard work and success, you fail, look in a damn mirror. If that's inaccurate, then I have to feel like the US has wasted trillions of dollars and decades bending over backwards to give many of these people not a level playing field, but a playing field skewed in their favor and the ones who have failed have nobody to blame but themselves. Same holds true whether you're male, female, white, black, yellow, or red.

I don't have excuses and by God I refuse to be someone else's excuse for why life is hard.

This was an inevitable development once the idea caught on that black people can't be racist. Seriously, the people proposing this nonsense claim that black people can only be 'prejudiced' because 'racism' is systemic and more to do with power than with preference. Which is also why the phrase 'white supremacy' -- which used to refer to people like the KKK -- is now being used to describe US society as a whole.

We're now at the stage where black people proposing to subjugate white people (removing the right to vote, ffs!) is being presented as a perfectly equitable outcome, since black people are immune from the inherent evil within white people. This trend, if it continues unchecked, is going to cause a world of trouble in the not-too-distant future and make the race riots of the 1960s look like a Mardi Gras parade.

a reply to: infolurker

I'm fine with all of the idiots that buy into the white guilt myth not being able to vote.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Correct. You don't have to be someone else's excuse, but you also don't have to fuel them either.

a reply to: Abysha

Sadly, having gone back and read the article a second time, it appears that the author was not speaking as hypothetically as I originally surmised, but rather, it seems, was indeed speaking in a manner that would indicate that this might be a valid course of action.

There is an old concept from the bible that I find interesting to think about, that of the 'hardening of the hearts'. To me this is the idea that all we have to do is to present information or and idea, wild as it may be, to those who do not understand as we do and they will see the wisdom of our perspective and join us in solidarity. This manner of thought is constantly used by both the right and the left. And here my earlier observation hold true. That those who would be moved to the introspection necessary to make that jump from one mental paradigm to an opposing one need time to do so. It just dosen't happen over night all that often.

So pushing more and more information at people, people who most likely have already taken that information into their own consideration of things is useless as an aid for better understanding. What it does is just harden the heart to a point of not reflective response but rather reactionary rebuttal.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Correct. You don't have to be someone else's excuse, but you also don't have to fuel them either.

Well, we can either sit here while their fires smolder for years, or we can throw accelerant onto those flames and watch them immolate quickly so society as a whole can go back about our business afterward. Hand me a can of gas... I've already got my Bic.

originally posted by: infolurker
Oh, some more leftest crazy. Seems that there is more than one idiot who wants people to suffer because they were born with a specific shade of skin and are male.

I have to ask, how many of you agree with this insanity? I would love to see some valid arguments here.

affinitymagazine.us...

By Malia Rolt
Posted on August 1, 2017

Now, history lessons aside; many people who disagree so far might be thinking, “Yes, all this injustice that happened in the past was undoubtedly awful. However, two wrongs don’t make a right.”

However one can’t be sure if withdrawing the white man’s vote could be considered a “wrong”. Furthermore, the point here that has to be made is that banning white men from voting temporarily will help them understand systemic injustice and help them become better, more empathetic allies to the social justice cause.

In contexts like these, identity politics can be helpful, empowering and contributing to an important learning experience. White men who want to become better allies always come across the problem of “I will never understand what it feels like to be systemically oppressed” but this proposal may further their understanding of minority needs and improve relations between different genders and races, which is the ultimate goal; equality.

By Malia Rolt
Posted on August 1, 2017

Malia Rolt ...
I am a troll ...

Gotta love a good anagram!

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

Have our resumes passed over when the recruiters see white names.

Meh happens all the time where I live. Or well if you're not chinese or speak mandarin. I've seen lots of job postings specifically mentioning both these things and have been turned down for jobs because I'm not chinese and was told as such. Despite mentioning race in a job ad or interview being illegal and the only time language can be specified is if it's a job requirement.

originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: infolurker

I am pretty sure the OP of the article linked is a troll. The person define themself as "A 16 year old Asian teenager ". in their bio. Doesn't seem possible.

So y'all are gettin' kerfluffled by what a 16 year old says?

Methinks you are wanting an opportunity to be offended. Otherwise, why even bother to post about this (not just the OP but everyone who is getting all righteous about it)..

This is a young person working through something and being provocative with their ideas.

No one with any power is going to take away white men's votes. Relax guys. You are all safe from the sixteen year old. I promise.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

If you really want my fellow white males and I, allies or not, to experience systemic opression, you would have to inflict the same opressors on us.

Flood white neighborhoods with police officers, and have them pull people over and stop them for no reason and look for criminal activity.

Prosecute us to the fullest extent.

Have our resumes passed over when the recruiters see white names.

Carry preconceived notions that are negative about our work ethic and morality.

etc.

This are the ypes of things the white man must endure to better understand. Not stripping our right to vote.

Will you be the first in line to get hung from a tree?

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The point is this:

No one can really understand what it has been like to be another person. None of you know my pain or what my trials in life have been, and that's fine. They're mine, and they've made me what I am.

You all have similar experiences that have shaped you.

But at the moment, we are undergoing a movement in this country that is seeking to crystallize and distill those experiences of life away from being our own, personal things and to pack them into neat, demographic boxes that file away with a theory called "intersectionalism" meaning that my experiences are the product of my having grown up "white" and "female" and "heterosexual" and "poor," etc., and only people who can also check all those boxes off will be able to authentically understand me and my struggles in life or my personal pain in a way that will let them dialogue with me.

So we get parceled away into our little tribal boxes based on that and not based on the idea that my pain is mine because I had a unique set of experiences that I dealt with growing up, and instead of just being compassionate toward me as another person, you need to show compassion toward all of my identity groups and what those groups are perceived to want in order to adequately treat with me.

And then there is the perceived ranking or hierarchy of victimhood and perceived pain a person experienced based on what demographic boxes they unpack in themselves. So my victimhood is not too great. I am only a woman, and wouldn't nearly have experienced all the woes of someone who checks both woman and homosexual for example, so someone would take much more tender care of someone with those boxes and give them primacy over me.

It's crap really.