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Justice Dept. to Take On Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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So this will probably dominate the news for the next few days.
This has been in front of the SCOTUS a couple of times in the last few years.

mobile.nytimes.com...://www.google.com/


WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing to redirect resources of the Justice Department’s civil rights division toward investigating and suing universities over affirmative action admissions policies deemed to discriminate against white applicants, according to a document obtained by The New York Times.

The project is another sign that the civil rights division is taking on a conservative tilt under President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. It follows other changes in Justice Department policy on voting rights, gay rights and police reforms.


This is a very decisive issue and i think will be a big deal. As if Sessions needed more attention.

 


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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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The document does not explicitly identify whom the Justice Department considers at risk of discrimination because of affirmative action admissions policies.


So the NYT is just guessing? This is not journalism.

Hit piece?



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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Good. People always talk about how the playing field needs to be leveled. That's not what they're doing. They're lowering the common denominator. Dumbing everyone down in the process.

#MAGA



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: shooterbrody


The document does not explicitly identify whom the Justice Department considers at risk of discrimination because of affirmative action admissions policies.


So the NYT is just guessing? This is not journalism.

Hit piece?

looks like they are guessing based on docs released by the justice dept
dates for apps to be in for lawyers to work on this


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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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Nice....people of color can now hold their head up when getting that acceptance letter.

For too long Affirmative Action has laid a stigma on minorities.

Level playing ground for all. If you can't get in based on academic performance, you don't belong...




posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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Proceed with extreme CAUTION when commenting.

Here's why....


according to a document obtained by The New York Times


We don't know the context or the authenticity.

But just the same, maybe it's time re-evaluate some things that may be out of hand and actually discriminatory by default.




posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

How about they start with that illegal immigrant in Berkeley who tweeted he wanted to celebrate cinco de mayo by beating up random white people.

Social media coordinator for UC Berkeley illegal aliens urges “beating … white people”
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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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They should be going after the discrimination of scholarships in black universities. I went to an all black college, and they don't offer any scholarships for the minorities that go there. You have to be a specific race to be able to even qualify. I felt that was unfair to the students that do pay to be there. Due to my situation, I'm out anyway. So, it doesn't matter anymore.
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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

If this is true, then I would consider it a good thing. Asians are the one's being discriminated against more so by college admissions. I hope that this will make the nation look at the failure of our public education system, and realize we need a repeal and reform immediately before more are lost in it's clutches.
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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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Here's the NYT giving that same racist chump, "Rogue Juan", an effing platform:


Even at Berkeley, I Face Threats as an Undocumented Student
BERKELEY, Calif. — Although the University of California, Berkeley, has some of the best resources in the country for undocumented students like me — in the form of financial and legal aid, for example — it’s been a tense couple of years, magnified by the anti-immigration build-a-wall language of Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Berkeley’s Undocumented Student Program, which the university established in 2012, works with more than 400 undocumented students and continues to grow as more go public about their immigration status, sometimes at considerable risk to themselves and their families.


HTF do they have room for them when there aren't enough university slots for the nation?

Here goes a video:


In it you can see that same entrance gate where the SJW's made a human wall last year to block white students from being able to enter and go to class.

Who wants to bet their life he's not in that meat wall?



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posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
So this will probably dominate the news for the next few days.
This has been in front of the SCOTUS a couple of times in the last few years.

mobile.nytimes.com...://www.google.com/


WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing to redirect resources of the Justice Department’s civil rights division toward investigating and suing universities over affirmative action admissions policies deemed to discriminate against white applicants, according to a document obtained by The New York Times.

The project is another sign that the civil rights division is taking on a conservative tilt under President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. It follows other changes in Justice Department policy on voting rights, gay rights and police reforms.


This is a very decisive issue and i think will be a big deal. As if Sessions needed more attention.

 


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This is a complex issue. College admissions is a complex process and far more nuanced than just test scores and GPA, particularly at the top schools.

There could be some significant unintended consequences. First, many white people may find themselves not the most qualified. If schools were to go entirely on GPA/test scores a lot of universities would be basically Asian and Indian.

Second, I wonder if these people who are so concerned about affirmative action have the same concern when it comes to these colleges recruiting basketball and football players?

Third, I assume we are going to get rid of legacy admissions too?

Fourth, affirmative action is really only an issue at the most selective colleges/universities. The only reason it is an issue is because some folks get butt hurt they didn't get accepted, so they look for someone to blame who "took their spot" which is fallacious thinking.

Even though I am general conservative in my thinking, I tend to support affirmative action to some degree as I have seen how it does work personally.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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To be honest, that is not the kind of illegal I mind being in this country. He is going to school and trying to better his life in a non violent way. Let people like that get citizenship, they deserve it more than the violent ones.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

That's the epitome of non-violent (posted the day after he received some fancy leadership award):



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: BestinShow
Nice....people of color can now hold their head up when getting that acceptance letter.

For too long Affirmative Action has laid a stigma on minorities.

Level playing ground for all. If you can't get in based on academic performance, you don't belong...



And, it's a poor corrective for historical injustice, one that also harms white and Asian individuals that have worked hard. Now we just need to address it in the work place too.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: BestinShow
Nice....people of color can now hold their head up when getting that acceptance letter.

For too long Affirmative Action has laid a stigma on minorities.

Level playing ground for all. If you can't get in based on academic performance, you don't belong...



Define academic performance...



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:22 PM
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This is such a bizarre decision, depending on how much is redirected this seems like a waste of money in my opinion. It sounds to me like this decision (if true) was only made to spark the inevitable week long argument about said topic.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:26 PM
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Define academic performance...

That metric is defined by the school being applied to.

See what I did there..?




posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: BestinShow
a reply to: Edumakated

Define academic performance...

That metric is defined by the school being applied to.

See what I did there..?



Exactly. That is my point. The school's admissions committees determine what constitutes academic performance, not people butt hurt that they did not get accepted to whatever school so they start crying about affirmative action.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

these only apply to public or facilities that take tax dollars, correct?

private institutions choose their own admission standards?



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Edumakated

these only apply to public or facilities that take tax dollars, correct?

private institutions choose their own admission standards?


That is my understanding.



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