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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ImmortalLegend527

When the hell did we drop nuclear weapons on Korea?


Today's education in action.




posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!


The alternative is mushroom clouds in the US with a simultaneous attack of every artillery gun on top of Soul and every med range missile launched at Japan. Then N Korea will still get nuked with the same fallout happening.

Your blackout from hacks scenario only makes the case for preemptive strikes.
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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux

North might be able to hit most of mainland U.S.

Really who cares.. So what. Another country due to an undisclosed source may be able to hit the USA with a missile..

wake up




posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!


On a related note, one has to wonder how the high turnover in the Trump Administration will affect its response to North Korea (or not). Kim must be laughing his arse off because the White House is in such disarray.

Don't forget about NK's hackers, which can take down our nuke plants too.

World War Three is about to begin, folks.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
a reply to: StoutBroux

The Koreans have been nuked by the USA I think umm twice in history so they have every Right to defend them selves.
Its sad how many people died from the nuke that the USA dropped on the Koreans.


I hope this is sarcasm and not what you actually think.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ImmortalLegend527

When the hell did we drop nuclear weapons on Korea?


Right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Everyone knows that.

It was a surprise attack.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!



World War Three is about to begin, folks.


I wouldn't hold my breath. They were telling us that in the early 80's and its what they told us we were training for when I enlisted in the Army back in 1990 and it hasn't happened yet. And if it does happen, its not going to be anywhere near the walk in the park Iraq will look like in comparison. They will split their artillery between leveling Seoul and taking out the minefields in the DMZ so that they can roll ground forces right over the border and while Seoul does have a lot of bunkers prepared for incoming artillery or worse, a significant portion of the civilian population will be decimated. They will then use intermediate range missiles to take out all airports, trains and ports so that civilians will be trapped with no way to escape the peninsula. And if theres any truth to the rumored tunnels beneath the DMZ, then they have an access point that will be difficult to locate and disable by US birds. North Korea might have archaic hardware but they have 1 million brainwashed soldiers that will make the Japanese raping and pillaging of Nan King look like girl scout cookie day at the mall. And that's just the Korean peninsula. This won't be relegated to North and South Korea IF it were to go down. They will give as good as they get and because they know we have a superior military, they are an unpredictable wild card capable of unleashing numerous chemical weapons attacks on S. Korea and Japan.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!


On a related note, one has to wonder how the high turnover in the Trump Administration will affect its response to North Korea (or not). Kim must be laughing his arse off because the White House is in such disarray.

Don't forget about NK's hackers, which can take down our nuke plants too.

World War Three is about to begin, folks.


President Trump is telling a few people (Lindsay Graham) for one, that the strike on North Korea is being prepared by his top military people. That it will be decisive and not allow counter-launches. First, Rex Tillerson had to do his thing by trying one more time, by asking Kim Jong to negotiate.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
a reply to: StoutBroux

The Koreans have been nuked by the USA I think umm twice in history so they have every Right to defend them selves.
Its sad how many people died from the nuke that the USA dropped on the Koreans.


I hope this is sarcasm and not what you actually think.



I hope you're right because if that statement is serious, I fear for the future if education goes the route the current administration would like it to.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!


On a related note, one has to wonder how the high turnover in the Trump Administration will affect its response to North Korea (or not). Kim must be laughing his arse off because the White House is in such disarray.

Don't forget about NK's hackers, which can take down our nuke plants too.

World War Three is about to begin, folks.


President Trump is telling a few people (Lindsay Graham) for one, that the strike on North Korea is being prepared by his top military people. That it will be decisive and not allow counter-launches. First, Rex Tillerson had to do his thing by trying one more time, by asking Kim Jong to negotiate.


Not really, yet.
Trump has one more ace up his sleeve. Japan is begging for us to stage medium range nukes there. Trump will tell Beijing do you want a Cuba missile crisis with nukes up your nose? If not, then go spank lil kimmie and take his toys away.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

We don't have medium range nukes. We have ICBMs, SLBMs, and air launched weapons.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: TinfoilTP


So are you advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike on NK? Because the fallout from that would affect 10's of millions of South Koreans, 10's of thousands of American servicemen and women, Japanese, Chinese and on and on and on... If that's what you advocate for, your insane.

And you're also ignoring the capabilities of NK agents and sleepers in S. Korea and North America. Their military tech, air force and naval capabilities might be archaic by most standards but they have demonstrated the ability to use technology to their advantage. Particularly their ability to hack infrastructure controls. All it takes is one successful team to take out the power grid for the entire east coast of the US which would cause absolute chaos and make the LA Riots in 92 look like lunchtime at Disney World. With this level of naiveté you should send an application in to the White House. With the recent rate of turnover there, you've got a decent shot at a senior position!


On a related note, one has to wonder how the high turnover in the Trump Administration will affect its response to North Korea (or not). Kim must be laughing his arse off because the White House is in such disarray.

Don't forget about NK's hackers, which can take down our nuke plants too.

World War Three is about to begin, folks.


President Trump is telling a few people (Lindsay Graham) for one, that the strike on North Korea is being prepared by his top military people. That it will be decisive and not allow counter-launches. First, Rex Tillerson had to do his thing by trying one more time, by asking Kim Jong to negotiate.


Asking Kim to negotiate is a waste of time. He proved repeatedly that sanctions and diplomacy won't work with him. He's evil and crazy enough to take out everyone with him should the stuff hit the proverbial fan....including his own people. If Kim was cruel enough to order the murder of many people, including his own brother, he is capable of anything.

That is the main reason I believe this will turn into an all-out war. He's not huffing and puffing like his father, who, every now and then would spout off to get attention (and humanitarian aid for his people). Kim is much worse.

I feel bad for the people of North and South Korea....they deserve to live in peace and not be subject to overwhelming poverty, starvation and tyranny. They're caught right in the middle.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 12:12 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ImmortalLegend527

When the hell did we drop nuclear weapons on Korea?




For North Koreans, destruction came from above. The conflict is seen as the first large-scale air campaign conducted by the US Air Force. American planes dropped approximately 635,000 tons of explosives on North Korea (that's more in three years than during the entire Pacific theater of World War II), including 32,000 tons of napalm, according to historian Charles Armstrong.





TextBy the time the armistice was signed on July 27, 1953, North Korea -- which began the war with a population of 9.6 million -- had suffered an estimated 1.3 million civilian and military casualties, according to figures cited by the US Air Force. South Korea, meanwhile, suffered up to 3 million civilian and 225,000 military casualties, from a total population of around 20.2 million in 1950. Gen. Douglas MacArthur, a legendary figure in the US military who went on to become the commander-in-chief of the United Nations Command at the onset of the war, said during a congressional hearing in 1951 that he had never seen such devastation.





TextOn August 6, 1945 the US dropped an atomic bomb ("Little Boy") on Hiroshima in Japan. Three days later a second atomic bomb ("Fat Man") was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. These were the only times nuclear weapons have been used in war.


I would like to apologize for my historical lack of precise knowledge.. the united states history is written with so much death and destruction it's hard to remember the blood shed that they have spewed over this entire planet.

It was Japan whom the united states nuked 2 times, not korea, so sorry...and if you add all the bombs and napalm that was dropped on the Koreans


Text635,000 tons of explosives on North Korea (that's more in three years than during the entire Pacific theater of World War II), including 32,000 tons of napalm,


it would probably add up to more than 2 nukes maybe 4 or 6 by my math magical calculation.




Texthad suffered an estimated 1.3 million civilian and military casualties, according to figures cited by the US Air Force. South Korea, meanwhile, suffered up to 3 million civilian and 225,000 military casualties, from a total population of around 20.2 million in 1950.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: ImmortalLegend527

So, it wasn't sarcasm and when you made one of the most inaccurate statements on here ever about something pretty much everyone above the age of 30 knows you tried to deflect it with "napalm was horrible"



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

We don't have medium range nukes. We have ICBMs, SLBMs, and air launched weapons.


Nukes stationed in Japan to be loaded on warplanes is a medium range threat compared to say Minutemans.

Todays announcements from NK are threats of "gift packages" for "American bastards."

If anyone has ever asked to be nuked, it would have to be them.


North Korea threatens US with more 'unexpected gift packages' after missile test


Source
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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

They won't put them in Japan, if they are moved to the area. You don't put them on a fighter that has to fly so long to reach the target that the pilots would be mistake prone when they got to the target area. If they move them to the area at all they'll go to Guam where they can be put on B-2s and B-52s.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

They won't put them in Japan, if they are moved to the area. You don't put them on a fighter that has to fly so long to reach the target that the pilots would be mistake prone when they got to the target area. If they move them to the area at all they'll go to Guam where they can be put on B-2s and B-52s.


Why not station B2's on Japan? China would change their tune fast.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Because they don't have the facilities for large bomber aircraft in Japan. They have preexisting facilities on Guam.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Because they don't have the facilities for large bomber aircraft in Japan. They have preexisting facilities on Guam.


Well Trump can start building them to rattle China's cage, get em moving on N Korea. All he needs to do is have large publicized historic agreement signings with Japan, they start action on adjusting their Constitution, fly in some heavy equipment to start pushing earth around. The bombers probably never have to go there, hell the airfields probably wouldn't be finished before China takes kimmies toys away.




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