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The Deep State is Real

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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

If the 'deep state' is real, then how did Donald Trump, of all people, get into office to begin with? If they wanted to block Trump, they didn't do a very good job. Maybe not as "powerful" as you imagine "them" to be.


Nobody has made any claims about "Deep State" people being heavy hitting geniuses.







posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Yeah the Left is definitely not as powerful as the Left thinks they are; I completely agree



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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We have had a clear indication of the existence of the deep state through the Syrian war experience.

The fact that the Russians beat the American deep state on this issue is still reverberating with all the super anti-Russian media frenzy. This is almost worst than the cold war and it can be all ascribed to the deep state reaction to the Syrian loss.

They don’t like to lose and their going to get some pay back



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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All conspiracy theories are open to debate - even when a significant number
are based on truth. This makes it easy to deny them, with no evidence.

a reply to: Willtell

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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 11:20 PM
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100 % agree,anyone can see it is real if they pay attention to politics.These secular liberal people or globalist have become far to powerful for their own good.Let them ruin the world is what I say or you become no better than them.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 11:46 PM
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Here is a great, and very recent example of Ron Paul talking about the deep state and how it has affected Donald Trump. This is concerning Trumps recent signing of new sanctions against Russia.


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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder




Next there's the social media aspect, with the large platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, all owned by liberal forces


Now you are starting to understand the true nature of those forces. They are meant to discredit any information no matter how truthful said information may be. And in this manner; they (the left) have become quite successful at it. You think the left cares about the things they say? They do not. They are only doing what they are told to do.

See the video example below as to how they are doing their tactics. (perhaps you or xuen can make a separate thread on it.) but this is what we are up against. paid trolls.

I mentioned in past topics on the tactics the left are doing, and it is all psychological.



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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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That was an interesting and informative video. It's something most of us on ATS should already be aware of, but it seems many of our very own have gone off course. These are very powerful brainwashing tools being used here. It's no joke.


Thank you for sharing.
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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Ron Paul as witty as ever. He also just did a longer segment on that topic on his Liberty Report.

Trump Signs Sanctions Bill - Another Deep State Victory



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:06 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

They are incredibly powerful, if you're unaware of them, they can sap your energy through emotional stress. This is what the deep state has been doing through political correctness. CNN, mainstream media have been practicing these tactics for years. It is even used in Music , which is the fastest way to program a person.



Clinton SuperPac Admits to Paying Internet Trolls

What has been exposed here is one of the weapon's used by the deep state against the average person. As you can see by the link above, it was done to Bernie sanders groups as well.

And now they are doing the same with Donald Trump, trying to get him to react, so that they can themselves react to his reaction and claim victim. See how it works? Character Assassination is the main goal if it does not fit the globalist narrative.

This fact should frighten anyone, because everyone is vulnerable.

The Deep State is not something to be taken lightly if they are willing to go this far to control people. And many of their minions are in this very forums as we speak.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Total Brilliance...that is all.




posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:30 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

All the foxes are guarding the henhouses now.

Noone else will.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 03:33 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
If the 'deep state' is real, then how did Donald Trump, of all people, get into office to begin with? If they wanted to block Trump, they didn't do a very good job. Maybe not as "powerful" as you imagine "them" to be.


You need to rid yourself of all your dolls.

They are all decieved more than a CIA ISIS doll.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: Rezlooper




Look what we are up against with their control of the media, education, hollywood, social media giants, the billionaire elites, etc. and yet, we keep on winning - governorships, state legislatures, Congress, the Supreme Court, the Presidency.


We keep on winning?

Who's "we?"

Or do you have a mouse in your pocket?



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Here's why blind partisanship prevents Americans from seeing that there is really and truly a shadow government: they are not trying to "bring Trump down". In fact, they're not "trying" at all. They're actually doing it, have been doing it all along, and will continue to do it, as long as they successfully keep us divided like this. And their target is the entirety of the nation. Trump just happens to be outside of their control at the moment, and they are attacking him as a proxy for all Americans. All. Americans. No one is exempt...and the false belief that it is exclusive to one political party is their greatest weapon right now.

If we want to stop them, we have to start thinking as Americans. No one person can do this. If people truly want things to change, then it has to start with the people. Stop blaming one party affiliation for something that is really the responsibility of every single American.

There is most definitely a deep state. And it existed long before Trump or Clinton or Obama or Bush or any of these figureheads came into the mix. And if the obsessive, stubborn clinging to partisanship and division like that showcased in your OP continues...they will also continue. They will continue to subvert, deceive, abuse, and imprison every single American who has forgotten that this nation is about the people who live within it. By the People, for the People. Not "by the republicans or the democrats or the liberals or conservatives and screw the rest of America".



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 08:01 AM
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Applause!

The nature of the actual Deep State implies that it is far beyond a) common knowledge and b) ridiculous political theater.

Well said (as usual).



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The deepest evil is in the pentagon. The building itself is shaped like the center of a pentagram, the symbol used in witch craft to call forth spirits and send them into the world to do harm to humankind.

"Generals gather in their masses, just like witches at black masses.

Evil minds that plot destruction, sorcerers of deaths construction." --Ozzy , from War Pigs



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You've been duped, you fell for it, just like they planned, you are part of the problem.

The "Deep State" AKA Shadow Government has existed long before Trump and their existence is to control things, the Shadow Government chooses who goes in the WH, they put Trump there, he is no threat to them, he is forwarding their agenda the same way that Obama did by saying and doing exactly as they say.

Their ultimate goal is to create divisiveness so we ignore the true threat to our freedoms (the little we have left) and fight among each other. Take a look around...

Most Trump supporters are conservative by nature and dismissed the idea of a shadow government until recently because in their mind it's the only explanation to Trump's insanity, it all must be part of his master plan they say!

I know the opinion of a random stranger on the internet isn't going to change your mind but your post is perpetuating exactly what they want, you are helping portray their illusion whether you know it or not.

Your intentions seem sincere but you are severely misguided in my opinion.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts nonetheless



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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Infowars claims to have obtained a "never-seen-before" clip of Jim Marrs. Never really listened to Jim before but he clearly knew what he was talking about.

"It's clear to everyone today that America has lost it's way. The problem is they don't know where to point the finger. Liberals blame conservatives, conservatives blame liberals, democrats vs republicans, and it's all a shadow show folks because the global fascists control both sides. They play both ends against the middle. Of all the U.S. presidents probably one of the best educated and the one that was in the best position to understand this national socialist, or nazi infiltration of the United States, was John F. Kennedy." ~ Jim Marrs


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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Mikehawk


The "Deep State" AKA Shadow Government has existed long before Trump and their existence is to control things, the Shadow Government chooses who goes in the WH, they put Trump there, he is no threat to them, he is forwarding their agenda the same way that Obama did by saying and doing exactly as they say.

The thing is Trump clearly doesn't do "exactly as they say". He takes a very hard stance against MSM fake news, he wont continue supporting rebels in Syria, he wants restrictions on lobbyists and term limits for members of congress, he aims to reduce the size of government and reduce taxes instead of making the government more bloated and creating new taxes to pay for it, he wants to reduce friction with nations such as Russia despite a constant deep state effort to demonize them, he empowers people to create a living instead of making them reliant on the state, he opposes globalism and by doing so greatly delays their plans for a one world government, etc, etc. In the beginning I suspected Trump was all part of the plan and I made posts on that subject but I've seen far too much evidence suggesting that's not the case at all. I seriously don't know how anyone could look at the attacks coming at Trump from all angles and still believe he doesn't pose any threat to them.
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