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Republicans Have Thrown In The Towel - Will Patch Up ObamaCare by Any Means Necessary.

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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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After touting the line of "republican-majority I have to admire the OP's ability to twist this into a partisan-issue.


In other words, our elected Republican Congressmen are siding with Democrats, instead of with their President, and the people who elected them!


Lololololol delusional our "elected," congressman don't give a rats ass about us mere peons and instead look out for one another.




posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: carewemust



Insurance company stocks will SOAR when word gets out that the ObamaCare Golden Goose is back in the egg-laying business, for good.

The major companies that are in the ACA program have , or are, pulling out. The Feds havent came across with the subsidies like they promised.



Unfortunately, the premiums will continue to soar, as will the deductibles. Doctors/Hospitals will still continue to turn away people with ObamaCare insurance.

Most hospitals cannot turn away anyone. The ones I have seen all have a sign up everywhere that they cannot.

Taxes and insurance premiums will become a major concern for everyone as it fails.

The promised subsidies to cover the cost of the "lower" premiums are not being payed ."I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"(Wimpy) sort of thing. Government keeps money and insurance companies are losing. As with the Social Security program , just another personal credit card for those in government.

The numbers of ACA covered individuals are heavily swayed toward popularity . Even if you sign up to shop , you have just been "insured" by the ACA. Whether or not you obtain a policy through it.

The ACA is a government scam . That is exactly what it was set up for.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lucidparadox



You do realize that the majority of the people in the country voted Democrat right?


Only the West Coast made the number reflect that. Known Progressive States . Look at the individual States .That gives the best clue.


And still, the majority voted democrat. So the majority are progressive, right?



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: carewemust
The Republican Congress should be so ashamed by how they lied to Americas, for 7 frickin years!

The Republican Party has been infiltrated by Democrats.

The ugly almost even split in the Senate allows the other traitors to lurk and wait for an ideal time to ambush good legislation. They only had to expose two women and McCain this time. If they're voted out of office, there's probably still a dozen or so left to come out of the woodwork.

If you want the government to stop taking money out of your wallet (and I know that's what we all want) ... it's gonna take a revolution ... and some serious televised torture sessions to keep it from happening again.


Infiltrated?

Exposed?

Revolution?

Torture?

This is pure fascist paranoia. Tell me this is as joke.

If not, you should get the hell out of my country, and stay the hell away from my constitution, because you are no American.
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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: grey580

originally posted by: carewemust
July 31, 2017


In other words, our elected Republican Congressmen are siding with Democrats, instead of with their President, and the people who elected them!


-CareWeMust


I think they "are listening" to the people that elected them.

As in. You take away our healthcare, we take away your job.


EXACTLY... I dont know what the people in this forum dont understand. The majority of citizens want/support Obamacare/federally subsidized healthcare.




No they don't. At best its about 50/50.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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Why would you replace something that has problems working with something worse?


That’s what the republicans need to answer.



To draw an analogy. A doctor is treating a person with some medicine that is not working too well, so another doctor comes in and gives the patient the same (non-working medicine) just a smaller dosage and gets worst results.

That’s the GOP prescription

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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: TacSite18
This is pure fascist paranoia.

It would seem that way to anyone who has accepted their brainwashing and joined the ride on the progressive bandwagon.




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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

In a few states with large populations and those states have progressive governance for themselves under the federalist system, but I fail to see why the citizens of California are the only ones who get to decide who the president should be every four years which is what you popular vote people are arguing.

We don't have a popular vote election for president for just that reason, and still California has an outsized say in its 55 EC votes.

The presidential election is really 50 separate state elections, and Hillary lost the majority of those.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Nah, they just took the Democrat approach. Since we can't afford to make sure every single person has the absolute best, we'll just socialize it and make sure it's crap for all!

No one wins, but at least everyone is equally miserable and if we're lucky, they'll die before they figure out that we all still have the best of everything that we refuse them.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
After touting the line of "republican-majority I have to admire the OP's ability to twist this into a partisan-issue.


In other words, our elected Republican Congressmen are siding with Democrats, instead of with their President, and the people who elected them!


Lololololol delusional our "elected," congressman don't give a rats ass about us mere peons and instead look out for one another.


Just heard a Republican Senator on FOX NEWS (radio) saying that Trump was elected by Americans on "a sugar high". and now they're realizing that he's not a true conservative. Republicans deserve true conservative principles, according this Senator. (Sounded old and definitely sewer entrenched.)



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Conservative principles have gotten us to where we now are. Please, the middle class can't take anymore conservative principles.

What we need is utilitarian principals to bring quality health care that is affordable to the US like any other industrialized nation seems to be able to do.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: TacSite18
This is pure fascist paranoia.

It would seem that way to anyone who has accepted their brainwashing and joined the ride on the progressive bandwagon.






According to some outlets folks that don't want to work together are not as patriotic as those who are.....and other total rubbish.

Just remember many of these politic folks are really very stupid but vain and puffed up. All this noise we here is sort of like an overgrown teen ager covering his ass and/or classic "front" man for privet interests while claiming to work for the people.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I don't think anything is all bad as nothing is all good, were imperfect.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

What's the GOP plan for automation making human labor nearly unnecessary??

What's the GOP plan to end the war on drugs?

Whats the GOP plan to increase wages??



Magic.. basically just stop regulating big buisness and magically they will decide to pay more.....


With the dems atleast they are recognizing the problem and offering some kind of fix..



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I'll tell you one thing, the AHCA/BCRA Republican plans would have screwed the middle class horribly!

ObamaCare subsidizes a family of 4 premiums, if they earn under $97,000 @ year. The most a $97k family is allowed to pay for premiums is 9.65% of their income. Government pays the premium amount that exceeds 9.65%.

The Republican plans lower the subsidized income ceiling to $73,000 @ year. A $73,000 family is expected to pay up to 16% of their income for health insurance.


With Obamacare a family of 4 earning over $97,000 gets NO subsidy to help lower insurance premiums.

With the Republican plans, family of 4 earning over $73,000 get no help.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: carewemust

Conservative principles have gotten us to where we now are. Please, the middle class can't take anymore conservative principles.

What we need is utilitarian principals to bring quality health care that is affordable to the US like any other industrialized nation seems to be able to do.


Are you sure? Obama wasn't a conservative.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

The fact that "free market" capitalism got us to the point where the ACA was passed is a conservative pot hole. These companies were and are allowed to run rough shot over anything and everything, with little restraint. Anyone who does not agree only needs to look at any other industrialized country for the evidence. Our medical system if a money making venture that happens to see sick people.

The monopoly medical is, the lobby and from what we are seeing the repubs do right now is a good indication we need no modern conservative ideas. They will bankrupt the US.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lucidparadox



You do realize that the majority of the people in the country voted Democrat right?


Only the West Coast made the number reflect that. Known Progressive States . Look at the individual States .That gives the best clue.


And still, the majority voted democrat. So the majority are progressive, right?

If you know anything of the US , you wouldnt have to ask that question



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:48 PM
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Pogo lived in the Okefenokee Swamp (down in Florida)...

that was years ago though... in the meanwhile the corrupt Congress took over that People's swamp and built a whole lotta Watergates' there in the once proud area called the Okefenokee, restyled into a stinky sink hole right in D.C. Capitol Hill

here's the low down --- Trump will be swallowed up by all the Swamp Creatures that carry Attache' Cases to Congressional offices..... or the Represenatives wear Flag-Pins to denote which kool-Ade they drink while in Session so those Attache' cases can be misplaced in the proper Senator's office....



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: carewemust

The fact that "free market" capitalism got us to the point where the ACA was passed is a conservative pot hole. These companies were and are allowed to run rough shot over anything and everything, with little restraint. Anyone who does not agree only needs to look at any other industrialized country for the evidence. Our medical system if a money making venture that happens to see sick people.

The monopoly medical is, the lobby and from what we are seeing the repubs do right now is a good indication we need no modern conservative ideas. They will bankrupt the US.


The market even then was not "free." It was overly regulated by the states.

Heck, the market distortion goes back to the times of Democrat wage caps when employers started offering benefits in addition to monetary compensation in order to lure in and keep the best labor and employees. That's how health care got tacked on to employment in the first place, as an unintended side effect of Democrat meddling in the free labor market, because they were up to their old tricks of "no one really needs to make this much ..."

And, of course, no private entities can truly compete with public ones, and right now you have three public entities in the insurance market between Medicare, Medicaid, and Tri-Care. All of them can force medical entities to accept payment below actual cost which foists the cost onto everyone into the private market.

And, of course, then there is the always the reality that the government who operates those public entities also rights all the rules, regs, and laws.

All of that distorts the market making it less and less "free" all the time.



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