Why Has Trump Broke his Tax Return Promise?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Where was this attitude when Hillary was getting paid all that money for her speeches? You guys were disgusted by how much she was making but now it's "ugly" to care how much someone makes? Seems a little hypocritical.

History pookie-bear.

History.

I actually defended the Hill-hag and didn't think her IRS returns were any of my business.

Look it up!

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

That makes no sense. Obama showed his tax returns.

But he did not show a certified copy of his birth certificate.

Or college transcripts.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

That is a lie. If it is issued by the state, it is certified. I have had to show a state birth certificate many times.

Where is Obama?

IT IS NOT A LIE! Obama is the liar...and Factcheck.org!

Obama's short form birth certificate copy wasn't certified by the Hawaii Department of Health and that is demonstrable on its face by comparing it to the agency's regulations, and I verified it through open records requests:

Link

Copies of vital records issued by the Hawaii Department of Health are certified with the agency's RAISED/EMBOSSED seal per their published regulations in effect for 40+ years.

Obama's short form birth certificate bears a fraudulent DEBOSSED seal...and the Hawaii Department of Health told me they don't maintain that seal or any DEBOSSED seals.

Factcheck.org took a photo of the BACKSIDE of the fraudulent debossed seal (where it was raised in reverse) and mislabeled it as 'The raised seal.' But it's not a raised seal, it's the backside of a debossed seal.

So, that record is not certified according to the agency's regulations and they don't claim to have impressed any debossed seal in it.

It's not certified.

The long form birth certificate the White House released as a pdf has no visible seal to authenticate it.

When I got my passport -- when anyone gets a passport -- they have to send their birth certificate into the State Department so that they can verify the seal meets the regulations of the issuing agency. That's the method I used to authenticate Obama's alleged birth certificates and I find one version is outright FRAUDULENT, and the other has no discernible seal.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

How come you get so passionate about obamas lies but not Trumps?

Now answer the question and don't deflect or try to pretend trump has never lied

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: MotherMayEye

How come you get so passionate about obamas lies but not Trumps?

Now answer the question and don't deflect or try to pretend trump has never lied

Because I was a Democrat who supported Hillary back then (2008), when the issue was actually first raised. I thought I was a genuine liberal, back then. And, then I was eaten by Democrats, which is apparently pretty common.

Honestly, I think Trump played interference for Obama by raising the issue of his birth certificate and demanding to see his long form, in early 2011.

In my personal experience, it just happened to coincide with what I figured out about that seal Factcheck photographed. I was blogging, at the time, and had a pretty decent readership.

After Trump 'coaxed' Obama to suddenly release his long form -- after refusing even when a soldier who actually spent time in prison asked to see it, btw -- no one ever thought about the short form birth certificate again. They were all off looking at pixels and layers in the pdf of the long form like they were meaningful. IOW, I think Trump personally buried a story I uncovered by playing interference FOR Obama. I always will.

So I am VERY critical of Trump...but I also think the left needs some experience with how frustrating it is when one side will not allow scrutiny and criticism of the POTUS.

ETA: And I may have a bit more sympathy because even though I blame Trump for burying my story, at least he didn't call me a racist for investigating it.

The other possibility, if he's not hiding the tax records because of immense criminality and dodgy dealings, is that he doesn't want to admit he's not actually as rich as he claims to be.


Because I do half suspect that his debts might just add up to more than his assets. And the guy could be in the hock deep to the banks. He may very well be technically bankrupt.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

So profound....rolls eyes...

That's why we'll have someone tell us what it all means.

I don't have to know medicine or how to read a chart either. That's what the doctor is for.

Fortunately you can keep your doctor...


Seriously though, you'd not have the first clue what you were looking for, so you'd wait till CNN told you what to think.
Hence no tax returns are being released.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth


That's why we'll have someone tell us what it all means.

I don't have to know medicine or how to read a chart either. That's what the doctor is for.

CNN and MSNBC will tell you what it means.


Thats why you think the Korean war ended in 1953, and tell people to try reading more.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You do realize that his presidency is looked upon quite favorably and that he was a very popular president right?
And that your response is singley your opinion???
Good.
Just so we're clear on that.

a reply to: stosh64

Thats why you think the Korean war ended in 1953, and tell people to try reading more.

Well that and other assorted gems.
I just haven't decided if it is intentional or not.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: DBCowboy

So if its all that simple.

And ever presidential candidate since 1976 had released their tax returns.

And its causing so much speculation.....

.... why does Trump not just release them to take a little heat off.

Because he doesn't have to.

Again, this is more about class warfare than anything else.

Why do you care what Trump made and paid?

Well I didn't but you know...when you ask a kid what he has in his hands and he quickly puts them behind his back and exclaims "nothing" you kind of get curious right?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: DBCowboy

So if its all that simple.

And ever presidential candidate since 1976 had released their tax returns.

And its causing so much speculation.....

.... why does Trump not just release them to take a little heat off.

Because he doesn't have to.

Again, this is more about class warfare than anything else.

Why do you care what Trump made and paid?

Well I didn't but you know...when you ask a kid what he has in his hands and he quickly puts them behind his back and exclaims "nothing" you kind of get curious right?

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: DBCowboy

So if its all that simple.

And ever presidential candidate since 1976 had released their tax returns.

And its causing so much speculation.....

.... why does Trump not just release them to take a little heat off.

Because he doesn't have to.

Again, this is more about class warfare than anything else.

Why do you care what Trump made and paid?

Well I didn't but you know...when you ask a kid what he has in his hands and he quickly puts them behind his back and exclaims "nothing" you kind of get curious right?

So Trump is a 4 year old in your eyes.

*shrugs*

a reply to: shooterbrody

No his credibility was never at any time above as you refer to her queen pantsuit.
Please you're deluding yourself. People didn't like her but they sure didn't think she was to lowlife liar that he is.
Now once again. Why didn't trump release those tax returns when he said he would?
Oh yeah Hillary...

a reply to: DBCowboy

Four year olds can sometimes be reasoned with and usually want to be liked .
No he's two.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Why didn't trump release those tax returns when he said he would?

Is his audit complete? I think trump stated in sept of 16 that he would release them once the audit was completed.
Do you have a source that says the audit is complete?( oh no you and sources)

oh and did you get to review the Rachel Maddow info i posted for you ?
nothing to add about that?
of course not....
nothing but lies from you people

a reply to: MotherMayEye

No president ever did. What's your point.
You're not going back to that prejudicial crap again are you?
He never had to prove a God damned thing.
It was a garbage story from the start.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Well, I was all ready to jump on ship with ya here but...

You urged us to stop taking politics so seriously, so I'm just gonna say

Fug it! Go TRUMP! Buttslam all the serious haterz!

a reply to: MOMof3

My mistake sweety. I thought they were saying trump released his.
So sorry.
I know their financial records were completely out in the open.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: MotherMayEye

No president ever did. What's your point.
You're not going back to that prejudicial crap again are you?
He never had to prove a God damned thing.
It was a garbage story from the start.

Well there are requirements to serve as POTUS that are actually material to a birth certificate.

So if you mean, by "prejudicial," that his certified birth certificate copy may prove prejudicial to his eligibility to serve, then yes. It's not 'crap' though.

And, yes, he did have to prove it. Considering certain members of Congress were quoted as relying on Factcheck.org in determining the document had the requisite raised seal...then, yes...he did have to prove it. But he didn't and Factcheck.org lied.