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Why Trump Should Ignore Russian Sanctions Bill

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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

You're in awe... of cowards?




posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Those who don't learn from history are damned to repeat it.
Clinton, Bush and Obama all tried to improve relations with Russia. Russia doesn't want better relations. Russia wants America to fade away.


Damnd stupid Krauts need to repeat history! Fine. They/we don't seem to be willing to let your economic BS sanctions fade away the Nord Stream project. This is the end of your sanctions-ploy, wait and see.

Germany calls for EU countermeasures against US following Russian sanctions

Your congress is hijacked by military industrial complexes, it's a shame. We saw that with Babies in Kuwait, Iraq after 9/11, Afghanistan and with the bombardment of our Minsk Agreement for the Ukraine, thanks for no help at all btw. Have some fun fading away with this stubborn breed of stupid!



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

The US stayed home for so long because shortly after WW1 the country adopted a very large isolationist and nationalist ideology not unlike what is going on with the Republican party today that forced us to withdraw from the League of Nations that was setup post-WW1 even though we spearheaded the idea (Teddy Roosevelt's idea). Also, and this is something that many Americans don't like to admit, there were many Nazi sympathizers in our country (shocker our country had racist assholes right?). Most notably, Henry Ford was a BIG time Nazi sympathizer and even contributed to the German war effort with his manufacturing.

So the leading ideology of the day was that the US was to stay on its side of the hemisphere and let Europe and Asia do its thing. But as the war started heating up, there were Americans who went and joined the war effort and the government started looking for reasons to enter, but majority public sentiment was still against joining. Our businessmen liked selling to the Nazis too much. But the war grinded on and public support slowly shifted and even if Japan hadn't of attacked us at Pearl Harbor, we probably would have come up with some different excuse to enter the fray.

You can call that cowardly if you like, but the US wasn't always so friendly with Europe. The only reason we sided with England in WW1 is because of an intercepted message from Germany trying to provoke Mexico to attack us.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MALBOSIA

You can call that cowardly if you like, but the US wasn't always so friendly with Europe. The only reason we sided with England in WW1 is because of an intercepted message from Germany trying to provoke Mexico to attack us.

Yep. We even fought against Mexico in the Battle of Veracruz in 1914, then occupied Veracruz, Mexico for several months afterwards.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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China is every bit as antagonistic towards Russia as they are towards the USA. Despite any posturing to the contrary, you can be certain China is in this for China only, and any alliances (with either party) are merely to reinforce their position in some way (and likely weaken Russia's/USA's). USA still has more military hardware than both China+Russia combined, and 1 billion nukes are about as useful as 20 nukes, so while Russia spent their time/money building superfluous quantities, USA was busy pushing the envelope of warfare.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Why do you think the sanctions will hurt Europe? Give a specific example because I haven't heard anything like that. That's interesting.


Energy projects.

As you know something like 70% of Europe's natural gas comes from Russia.

Luckily the US is there to save the day by exporting to Europe and only charging 300% more than Russia charges. That wasn't planned was it...sarcasm.

A bit like coal and the Ukraine.

Also country's are pushing back against the original sanctions as thousands of farmers and food producers are going out of business due to the sanctions Russia has used as retaliation.

Anyway, Europe is preparing counter sanctions/retaliation against the U.S..

Or they may just ignore the sanctions as what right does the U.S. have to tell European businesses who they can do business with.



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