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The Trump-Russia Narrative is Dying. Why?

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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Please quote something that shows that this is all classified information. I have seen nothing but a stream of releases indicating that all examined evidence is benign. Comments on it, media back and forth.

It is not classified. These investigations get their own celebrity press attention where everything is conjectured about, evidence included.


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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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So, quickly, let's see here, in regard to the Uranium One deal ...

1. Clinton didn't sign off on it.

2. State was one of 11 members on the Committee for Foreign Investments that signed off on the deal.

3. All of the uranium from American mines will end up in America after processing in Canada.

and yet ...

Donations to the Clinton Foundation prove that Hillary Clinton herself sold uranium to the Russians.

...

...

Yep, that's Trumpeteer logic for you.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Uranium One is controlled by RosAtom which is part of the Russian government. They can do whatever they want with that uranium. They can move that uranium wherever they like.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

The Clinton foundation made millions from Russian investors and we know thanks to documented Huma emails. Pay to play all day.

Bill Clinton passed along state department info at paid speeches in Moscow to the exact people who bought uranium one to a tune of half a million dollars a pop, that we know of.

Ownership is still Russian controlled and they can exert influence on us with better effrct.

Traitor.

There you go saying that blatant collusion with Russia is ok. The investment bank was Kremlin controled.

Russia made 1 dynastic political family millions and gained a strategic advantage over our country by any measure.

She did "reset" and "strengthen Russia" like she said she would.

MAGA


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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Gryphon66

Uranium One is controlled by RosAtom which is part of the Russian government. They can do whatever they want with that uranium. They can move that uranium wherever they like.


Again, you are mistaken.



For another, Russia doesn’t have the licenses to export uranium outside the United States, Oilprice.org pointed out, "so it’s somewhat disingenuous to say this uranium is now Russia’s, to do with what it pleases." The Kremlin was likely more interested in Uranium One’s assets in Kazakhstan, the world’s largest producer.


Politifact

Also ... the fact that puts the lie to the lie ...



... most of their Clinton Foundation donations occurred before and during Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid, before she could have known she would become secretary of state.


And yet, you guys deny that the obvious facts of Trump Campaign collusion with Russia, EVEN when the perpetrators ADMIT IT.

Y'all are SPECIAL.
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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




And yet, you guys deny that the obvious facts of Trump Campaign collusion with Russia.



What are the obvious facts we deny?

Please quote them. They dont exist as even others have said already.

What is the evidence of Trump collusion?

You never posted it because it doesnt exist.

The Russian government can exert influence on the reserves value and can use it as its own supply.

Are you trolling again like you admitted before?

I cant tell anymore. You post the most minimal information with no relevant link to the discussion so as to add or detract from what is already known.

This is all a cover for the DNC killing Seth Rich for leaking to wikileaks the DNC data dump.

The digital evidence shows that a remote hack from Russia or anywhere was impossible. The evidence of recorded transfer rates was consistant with a physical USB or external hard drive ONLY.

The DNC killed this man and needs a smoke screen to hide the fact that he was the sole leak and he is very much dead now for whistle blowing on DNC corruption.

The attempted cyber attack was as usual as the hundreds or thousands daily. There is nothing special about a few Russian IP addresses they say got the data. There is no proof of point A to point B transmission of the original data. They have COPIES.

There were many insurance copies. They got released from everywhere from Russia to Nigeria once it was obvious Seth was assassinated.

Again, the digital data does not support the Russian DNC hack. Dispute the evidence. If you can.

Thats why the DNC stone walled the FBI. They didnt give them access to the "hacked" servers.

Thats why Wasserman didnt want to let the capitol police access her computer.


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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Gryphon66

Uranium One is controlled by RosAtom which is part of the Russian government. They can do whatever they want with that uranium. They can move that uranium wherever they like.


Again, you are mistaken.



For another, Russia doesn’t have the licenses to export uranium outside the United States, Oilprice.org pointed out, "so it’s somewhat disingenuous to say this uranium is now Russia’s, to do with what it pleases." The Kremlin was likely more interested in Uranium One’s assets in Kazakhstan, the world’s largest producer.


Politifact

Also ... the fact that puts the lie to the lie ...



... most of their Clinton Foundation donations occurred before and during Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid, before she could have known she would become secretary of state.


And yet, you guys deny that the obvious facts of Trump Campaign collusion with Russia, EVEN when the perpetrators ADMIT IT.

Y'all are SPECIAL.


A snippet from the Clinton Guistra fund website


ARE THE NAMES OF ALL THE CANADIAN DONORS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CLINTON GIUSTRA ENTERPRISE PARTNERSHIP (CANADA) PUBLIC INFORMATION?
No. Under Canadian laws and charitable best practices, charitable donors have a right to privacy. When a donor gives money to a Canadian charity in confidence, and in the process provides his or her personal information, under Canadian law a fiduciary relationship is established between the Canadian charity and the donor concerning the use of private information that the donor has provided. To maintain the fiduciary relationship between Canadian donors and the Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (Canada) with regard to disclosure of donor information, prior consent must be first obtained from each and every Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (Canada) donor agreeing to disclose their donor information to any other person or organization.


And this from the NYT.

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well. And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock. At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.


..and some more:

While the CFIUS deliberations were taking place, people who stood to profit from the Uranium One sale donated more than $2.6 million to the Clinton Foundation. Also, Renaissance Capital, an investment bank with connections to the Russian government, paid former President Bill Clinton $500,000 to deliver a speech -- more than his usual fee. Even before the sale was under consideration, the Clinton Foundation received $31.3 million in donations from one person, Frank Giustra, who stood to benefit from the sale.


Money was flowing in to the Clinton Foundation and to the Clintons before during and after the Uranium deal went through.

Oh, and memo's show Clinton was almost certainly lying when she said the deal was below her pay grade and she wasn't involved. Official warnings were sent. She knew exactly what was going on.


State Department officials in Fall 2009 -- a year before the United States approved the deal -- obtained an internal strategy document from Russia's nuclear energy firm, Rosatom, that warned about Moscow's intentions as it "flexes muscles" in uranium markets. In one cable sent to Clinton, U.S. officials in Brussels warned Russia was about to strong-arm U.S. ally Ukraine into a deal for "long-term supply of nuclear fuel" that could "shut" the U.S. company Westinghouse out of the market and extend Moscow's influence over Europe. The strategy paper... is consistent with Russia's efforts to dominate the gas supply market in Europe. "The strategy paper reflects concerns raised by industry reps and Ukrainian diplomats the past few months and is consistent with Russia's efforts to dominate the gas supply market in Europe," the cable from U.S. representatives in the European Union's capital city warned.



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posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Russia doesn't have to export uranium out of America. They can pay a middle man to do that.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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Fair enough, Politifact and the NYT disagree with each other.

The facts remain, however, that Hillary Clinton didn't sell anything to anyone, and the uranium stays in the US.

Next?



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Gryphon66

Russia doesn't have to export uranium out of America. They can pay a middle man to do that.



Why don't you give us a link to evidence that the uranium is leaving the US?



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Fair enough, Politifact and the NYT disagree with each other.

The facts remain, however, that Hillary Clinton didn't sell anything to anyone, and the uranium stays in the US.

Next?



Yeah its stays in the US... but Clinton knew all about it, lied about knowing the details, and her family and foundation received millions from people who profited from the deal.

Things that make you go 'hmmmm'



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm just saying they can.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Well, you guys don't need that to make you go "hmmm" about the Clintons ...

But let's bring this back to the topic.

You know that Hillary Clinton didn't "sell uranium" to anyone. You know that 9 or 10 members on the Committee for Foreign Investments signed off on the merger, and you know that Clinton wasn't even the signatory on that.

Yet, you persist in this absurdity of trying to link Clinton to the deal.

On the other hand, we have Don Trump Jr. ADMITTING that he agreed to meet with Russians to get dirt on the Clinton Campaign ... you have Flynn and Manafort who were WORKING AS FOREIGN AGENTS with the Russians while they worked for the Trump Campaign ... you have the American Intelligence Community, the Congress, and The Donald himself that has ADMITTED that Russia interfered in our Election ... and all of this is just ...

hearsay?

conjecture?

fake news?

There's something DESPERATELY wrong with this picture, isn't there UK?



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm just saying they can.


Yes you are.



posted on Aug, 2 2017 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

She profited from it and gave state department information to Bill Clinton who passed it along by way of paid speeches priced at 500 thousand dollars each to the very Kremlin controlled investment bank that bought Uranium one.

Hillary pushed for it through the state department and her donors.

EDIT TO ADD:
Good idea. Take a rest.
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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite
Hmm, if you were going to be convinced by testimony, evidence and logic than you'd believe Comey when he testified. But most Trump supporters think he was lying, so there goes your argument that people are rational, because they're not lol.

But the actual reason the Russia-Trump story isn't gaining any more traction is because there's nothing left to talk about. All the Russian meetings are out and whatever information we have on those meetings is already out there for people to read.

Robert Mueller is really good at his job, he'll be tight lipped until 2018 when he finishes his investigation. We all just gotta be patient, unless Donald Jr has other suspicious meetings we don't know about. I was also gonna say unless Donald Sr accidentally admits to collusion, but even then I don't think it would matter, at this point his supporters wouldn't care.



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

I doubt the investigations by Mueller will be complete before 2020 and maybe not till 2025.
That is not a joke either.

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posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: tadaman
Hillary Clinton in a post about Trump! What a RARE sight! Lmfao
You people are sad, let it go. Lock her up chant was fun wasn't it? Can't you be happy now.
Hatred of Hillary Clinton is like an old blanket wrapped around you. You're so used to it and comfortable in it that you can't imagine ever parting with it.

Let go of the blanket man, it's got mold on it. Lol

Or whatever, chant lock her up, bring up Internet stories about her illegal activities, it's not like there's an American Judicial System that's responsible for making sure people that commit crimes are accountable for their actions. Oh wait there is such a system in place!? Well then why haven't you taken your evidence to a judge,the police or a district attorney? This seems important, oh because your talking out of ur a$$ with Internet stories? Got it lol



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth
Thankfully, your doubts mean very little. Former assistant director of FBI think the investigation will be done by 2018. Here's hoping you're wrong



posted on Aug, 3 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

Actually, if you read back a bit, the discussion regarding Clinton is instructive ...

... Trump cultists spouted off something about Hillary selling uranium to Russians, they were corrected, and then they launched into the elaborate conspiracy theories regarding the Clinton Foundation.

Yet, they believe simultaneously that Donald Trump Jr. STATING PUBLICLY that he colluded with Russian agents during the campaign is "conjecture."

It's utterly amazing.



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