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America is the most corrupt country in the world. Americans have no right to judge Russia.

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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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Sorry, I have all sorts of rights to "judge" Russia.

Did you really say Russia isn't corrupt? BRB, gotta check, and make sure. Nope, you said it three times...wrong each time, too.

Taxes? Have you checked to see how much money goes out of the country into, oh say, Switzerland, or Carib. Islands? No? Maybe you should before uttering such statements...? Maybe? That'd be too much work though, I'm sure.

Of course, you might just be trolling for the lols, too.




posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Come on DB, you know that only a 250.00 post. But if you can get the 5, kuddos.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Starbuck799

I don't have insurance. Never bought it. No one forces me to buy insurance. Canada's healthcare is single payer. It doesn't force people to buy insurance.


I live in the USA and have never enrolled in the illegal and phony Obamacare, and I file taxes each year and have never paid any fines. I will not be forced to break the constitution by the IRS, which is aiding and abetting felony fraud by signing up for an illegal insurance scam and participating in the greatest fraud that Obama and the democrat party perpetrated on this country.
These corrupt people believe they can just make new laws by force of declaration without due process or representation, but then they themselves don't obey what they demand the rest of the country must obey. I spit on anything with Obama's name attached to it or the democrat party who illegally rammed this obscenely named "affordable care act" bill through, and using a bought off judge to declare it as law.






So, even before Obama care, you were uninsured. I mean that is your choice, like you said this is America. I just wonder if you are really wealthy, because allot of uninsured people use the excuse they are "Healthy". I have news for you, while at the Oncologist with my mom last week, there were a couple of people in their early 30s, clearly being treated for cancer. I bet a year ago they thought they were "healthy" too. I wonder how much money their treatments costs, and if they have insurance. Plus Cancer treatment can take months or years. It can be in the millions. So to afford all of that expensive treatment I assume, if God forbid anything like this happen to you, you could afford the treatments.


Another big one, what about a car accident, or any kind of accident at all, when people have them, we don't tend to call them an "on purpose", do we? He had an "accident" and fell of the ladder. You see what I mean. Anyway if you God forbid were really hurt, broken back or neck, that would be very costly too.

Like you said its your choice.






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I am sorry to hear that about America. If they were in Canada, they would be fully treated for however long it took with no cost to them other than their employment deductions.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Starbuck799

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Starbuck799

I don't have insurance. Never bought it. No one forces me to buy insurance. Canada's healthcare is single payer. It doesn't force people to buy insurance.


I live in the USA and have never enrolled in the illegal and phony Obamacare, and I file taxes each year and have never paid any fines. I will not be forced to break the constitution by the IRS, which is aiding and abetting felony fraud by signing up for an illegal insurance scam and participating in the greatest fraud that Obama and the democrat party perpetrated on this country.
These corrupt people believe they can just make new laws by force of declaration without due process or representation, but then they themselves don't obey what they demand the rest of the country must obey. I spit on anything with Obama's name attached to it or the democrat party who illegally rammed this obscenely named "affordable care act" bill through, and using a bought off judge to declare it as law.


, even before Obama care, you were uninsured. I mean that is your choice, like you said this is America. I just wonder if you are really wealthy, because allot of uninsured people use the excuse they are "Healthy". I have news for you, while at the Oncologist with my mom last week, there were a couple of people in their early 30s, clearly being treated for cancer. I bet a year ago they thought they were "healthy" too. I wonder how much money their treatments costs, and if they have insurance. Plus Cancer treatment can take months or years. It can be in the millions. So to afford all of that expensive treatment I assume, if God forbid anything like this happen to you, you could afford the treatments.


Another big one, what about a car accident, or any kind of accident at all, when people have them, we don't tend to call them an "on purpose", do we? He had an "accident" and fell of the ladder. You see what I mean. Anyway if you God forbid were really hurt, broken back or neck, that would be very costly too.

Like you said its your choice.






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I am sorry to hear that about America. If they were in Canada, they would be fully treated for however long it took with no cost to them other than their employment deductions.


Canada doesn't have the defense budget the US does because they have the US to take care of them. That's why you can afford a payroll deduction to pay for health insurance and we can't.



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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

No, I was insured before Obamacare and the cost wasn't a problem then. Then after it became a "declared" law, I got a new job, and this job had health insurance, but it was now conformed to the new law and it cost WAY more, so I refused it. I also didn't qualify for subsidized enrollment in the phony Obamacare. I still file taxes but I haven't been made to pay any fines, which is all I'm going to say about it.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: kurthall

No, I was insured before Obamacare and the cost wasn't a problem then. Then after it became a "declared" law, I got a new job, and this job had health insurance, but it was now conformed to the new law and it cost WAY more, so I refused it. I also didn't qualify for subsidized enrollment in the phony Obamacare. I still file taxes but I haven't been made to pay any fines, which is all I'm going to say about it.


Which is pretty much what happened to everyone in the middle class who has to pay for private insurance. Our employer laid it all out for us as to why our insurance was going up. They were still paying a generous portion of our private plan (Same %) but due to legislation (Obummercare), costs spiraled out of control.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: Throes

Don't worry Canada we have your back love the UK.

Oh and you colonists in the States also.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: Starbuck799

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Starbuck799

I don't have insurance. Never bought it. No one forces me to buy insurance. Canada's healthcare is single payer. It doesn't force people to buy insurance.


I live in the USA and have never enrolled in the illegal and phony Obamacare, and I file taxes each year and have never paid any fines. I will not be forced to break the constitution by the IRS, which is aiding and abetting felony fraud by signing up for an illegal insurance scam and participating in the greatest fraud that Obama and the democrat party perpetrated on this country.
These corrupt people believe they can just make new laws by force of declaration without due process or representation, but then they themselves don't obey what they demand the rest of the country must obey. I spit on anything with Obama's name attached to it or the democrat party who illegally rammed this obscenely named "affordable care act" bill through, and using a bought off judge to declare it as law.


, even before Obama care, you were uninsured. I mean that is your choice, like you said this is America. I just wonder if you are really wealthy, because allot of uninsured people use the excuse they are "Healthy". I have news for you, while at the Oncologist with my mom last week, there were a couple of people in their early 30s, clearly being treated for cancer. I bet a year ago they thought they were "healthy" too. I wonder how much money their treatments costs, and if they have insurance. Plus Cancer treatment can take months or years. It can be in the millions. So to afford all of that expensive treatment I assume, if God forbid anything like this happen to you, you could afford the treatments.


Another big one, what about a car accident, or any kind of accident at all, when people have them, we don't tend to call them an "on purpose", do we? He had an "accident" and fell of the ladder. You see what I mean. Anyway if you God forbid were really hurt, broken back or neck, that would be very costly too.

Like you said its your choice.






A


I am sorry to hear that about America. If they were in Canada, they would be fully treated for however long it took with no cost to them other than their employment deductions.


Canada doesn't have the defense budget the US does because they have the US to take care of them. That's why you can afford a payroll deduction to pay for health insurance and we can't.




Hmmm... That may be true, I haven't looked at the figures. But if what you say is true, I will ask you this question: If someone walked up to you and gave you something for free, would you not take it? And further to that point, why in hell would Americans give up some monetary advantage to another country to the detriment of it's own citizen's well being? Sounds pretty stupid to me. But hey, if you're giving it up, we'll be taking it.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

The US spends a higher % of GDP on healthcare than any other country for a crappy system. If that's not corruption, I don't know what is.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: Starbuck799

Sorry to disagree but nothing comes out of my pay cheque for health care. In my Province it's free, nothing is forced.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Metallicus

The US spends a higher % of GDP on healthcare than any other country for a crappy system. If that's not corruption, I don't know what is.


In 2014, more than 52,000 Canadians re- ceived non-emergency medical treatment out- side Canada.



One explanation for patients travelling abroad to receive medical treatment may relate to the long waiting times they are forced endure in Canada’s health care system. In 2014, patients could expect to wait 9.8 weeks for medically necessary treatment after seeing a specialist– 3 weeks longer than the time physicians consid- er to be clinically “reasonable” (6.5 weeks).



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

We deal with issues that other countries don't though also.

Like Black hospitals in Florida trying to kill White people,
And White hospitals in Florida trying to kill Black people.
Because our citizens are ignorant and racist.
(This is hyperbole. Investigate lawsuits and trends are disturbing however.)
And this is just 1 example of the struggle of diversity.

Things operate differently under scopes of '1 people', but Russia is also huge so diversity does try to come there, it just stands far less chance.


The real suckers is American's who claim to be patriotic. Single-payer is a no-brainer when you're all the same race, but the reality that separates this is 'Americans' not wanting to pay for 'Mexicans' etc. Truth still holds, if you cared the most about 'Americans' you would push single payer. But they don't it's a farce they're patriotic, for their racism. AKA Being white is more important to them than being American.
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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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all society is a corruption of life. nobody's got a monopoly on it.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: Jerseymilker
a reply to: Starbuck799

Sorry to disagree but nothing comes out of my pay cheque for health care. In my Province it's free, nothing is forced.


Only naivety allows one to believe that a government service is "free".

healthblog.ncpa.org...



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Jerseymilker
a reply to: Starbuck799

Sorry to disagree but nothing comes out of my pay cheque for health care. In my Province it's free, nothing is forced.


I am in Ontario, please tell us what province you are in. Either way, you are paying by force for your healthcare. It's not free. If not from your paycheck, then from the Federal Gov't, of which you pay taxes to to pay for your province's healthcare. So no matter how you look at it, you are paying for your healthcare by force.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: whywhynot

Well duh. No one is arguing government bureaucracy is efficient. It's not. Too many under qualified employees are hired.



posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

I really doesn't matter if the US or Russia is more corrupt. They are equal-just Russia gives people a few more benefits.
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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Starbuck799

You can't reason it like that. No one in Canada is forced to buy insurance. Everyone pays a certain amount of tax that is used to help support a variety of social services such as public school education and healthcare and military and police and firefighters and scholarships. No one is explicitly forced to buy a product the way Obamacare forces people to buy an insurance plan.
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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Your system is better than the US's in both cost and medical outcomes.

The US has a problem that no one is willing to talk about.
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posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Starbuck799

You can't reason it like that. No one in Canada is forced to buy insurance. Everyone pays a certain amount of tax that is used to help support a variety of social services such as public school education and healthcare and military and police and firefighters and scholarships. No one is explicitly forced to buy a product the way Obamacare forces people to buy an insurance plan.


Sure you can. The only difference is that in the States before Obamacare, you were not forced to pay for healthcare, now you are, just like you are forced to pay for all the other stuff you mentioned. So in Canada, you are forced to pay for healthcare, just like you are forced to pay for Police and Fire protection. If there is a Gov't service that you are not paying for directly, then you are being forced to pay for it through your taxes. These services are not free, someone has to pay, and no matter how you look at it, or try to spin it, you are paying through your taxes at some point for those services. And that includes healthcare. Who do you think pays for free healthcare? The money doesn't just come out of thin air ya know. God man, what are you thinking?



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