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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: luthier
I'm all for electric. What is the cost of this car with out the subsidies?
Musk is a master of getting $$$ from the taxpayers to fund this, he literally gets $ 1,000,000 every business day from tax payers.
In reality the Model 3 will cost a good $15,000 more (at least) than the originally projected $35,000 MSRP because of well, you know, the necessary add-ons (long-range battery, $9,000; nicer interior, $5,000; any color other than black, $1,000, etc.). Because it’s Elon, however, it’s not “bait and switch.” Oh no, it’s “allure and ascend.” As in, if you want to be allowed to ascend into The Enlightenment and bask in the glow, you have to fork over more cash. Capisce?
2. After the 30 Tesla insiders get the first cars, the Model 3 won’t be available in any sort of volume until sometime in 2018. But let’s be very clear about this one very significant point: Tesla has demonstrated – emphatically so, I might add – that they are serially incapable of building cars with quality at any sort of production pace that’s worth noting. And yet The Master insists that they will be punching out 500,000 Model 3s per year in no time. As if. There is no conceivable scenario extant where this will actually happen. The Muskians may not care about the projected volumes, but real people do, and the notion that this company, which can barely crank out the model lineup it has, will all of a sudden flip a switch and be cranking out a half a million cars with competitive quality levels is simply absurd and unimaginable.
3. There’s the little thing about the government tax subsidy running out before buyers can even get the Tesla 3, as in, oops.
And 4. Even if Musk could build 500,000 Model 3s a year – don’t worry, he can’t – the fundamental lack of dealers will paralyze the entire operation. So there you have it, folks. The short story of the Model 3? At least the one that was spun by The Cult of Elon? It’s transformative. It’s magic. It’s so much more than a car, and so much more than anything else that even resembles a car that it will change your life. For good.
originally posted by: lightedhype
a reply to: luthier
People here just love to complain at success that is not their own because they are 'taxpayers' and that is supposed to mean something?
Idk. But instead of complaining, if you buy a Tesla in a state with some forward thinking you personally will get a nice tax credit for it. Win for everybody. Except for maybe those who likes to taxpay but make no use out of benefits it can provide because of some misplaced self righteousness.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
It was the only way to make a succeful auto in an industry that purposely stifles innovation. Who was ford's competition? And no the model T was not in every driveway by any means. In fact I bet if you did a side by side they wouldn't be all that different from the model 3
As a business model to succeed for the amount of r and d to push the car forward and not just be a golf cart he needed to go high end to recoup some loss. Mass production of new tech doesn't happen over night.
Your article is an opinion. Which I also point out are often ghost written by competitors.