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Forbidden archeology Flood myth

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posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: toysforadults

To add to the this "myth" there are several sites, such as those off the coast of India & Japan that sit under water. Interestingly, the mainstream doesn't seem to want to acknowledge these sites, claiming they're just natural rock formations, which is laughable when you look at the pictures, like the one in this Link




The evidence shows that Yonaguni was submerged approximately 2,000 years ago. Geophysicist Dr. Robert Schoch, originator of the radical proposition that the Sphinx is thousands of years older than currently believed, and therefore darling of the fringe, explained the geological processes which occurred to create the formation in your pic.

Sites in India are known to be sinking due to tectonic subduction - a measurable phenomenon.

So, no, "mainstream" not only acknowledges such sites, mainstream easily explains them.

What you personally make of some pic you saw on the internet or TV notwithstanding.

Harte




posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Thats because its only 1300 years old or so.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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Here are a couple of other Flood thoughts for when you get bored to death again.






posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Islam is a very recent faith...500ad.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

"Forbidden Archaeology" is full of all sorts of nonsense and hand-wavium. For one thing, many of the "flood myths" show up in folklore AFTER Christian missionaries arrive... and they're "startlingly similar to the Bible."

...because folks ARE retelling the Bible story.

He is advancing the Hindu worldview (rather than the usual Christian worldview) but it also falls short (here's one book review that details his philosophy and gives a fair response without being condescending).

A review of his credentials - noting that he's not a scientist and is speaking about matters of science without actually having done any real research in the fields in which he's declared himself an expert. This is painfully, blisteringly evident to anyone with even a bachelors' in Biology.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Islam is a very recent faith...500ad.


Yes it is. It also uses the Old Testament as one of their holy books and their saints are the Biblical patriarchs.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: jokei
a reply to: toysforadults

For what it's worth, I always thought the biblical "flood" more likely a tsunami.



A tsunami? LOL, is that why we have oil?? Also did Noah build the ark to ride a wave???



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posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jokei
a reply to: toysforadults

For what it's worth, I always thought the biblical "flood" more likely a tsunami.


40 days and 40 nights of rain. About 371 days until the waters receded. Some tsunami!



Gen 7:11
... on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth ...

But you probably already knew this.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd
...because folks ARE retelling the Bible story.

What if ... the Bible Story is a re-telling of an older Bible Story ... the parts that can be remembered.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Snarl


Well that's the thing, the flood story doesn't show up in Hebrew scripture until after the Babylonian exile, where the Jewish scribes learned the story of Gilgamesh working as scribes in Babylon. It's certainly not a literal event, at least as it is described in the Pentateuch, it's allegorical.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: Snarl


Well that's the thing, the flood story doesn't show up in Hebrew scripture until after the Babylonian exile, where the Jewish scribes learned the story of Gilgamesh working as scribes in Babylon. It's certainly not a literal event, at least as it is described in the Pentateuch, it's allegorical.



I don't think we have any extant examples of Genesis from prior to the Babylonian exile. So the idea that the Hebrews rehashed Genesis from Babylonian ideas is purely speculative.

An examination of the couple of verses which have similarity in context reveals significant differences between the accounts.

Considering that Moses, who is traditionally attributed as the writer of Genesis, existed well prior to the establishment of the Babylonian kingdom, perhaps the influence went the other way and Sumerian myths were copied from Hebrew Canaanite sources and were adopted later by the Babylonians.

The fact that we have the Ketef Hinnom fragments which are pre-exilic indicates that a form of the written Hebrew language and those parts of the Hebrew scriptures that they contain, existed before the Babylonian exile.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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Perhaps it could be considered speculative, but the fact that the rest of the Pentateuch does exist in written form prior to the Babylonian exile without flood mythos and the fact that Gilgamesh predates protojudaism significantly rules it out in my opinion. Earliest tablets detailing the Gilgamesh epic are from ~1800 BCE which is 1200 years prior to the Babylonian captivity so there's no way that the story originated with the Hebrews and was transferred to Babylon. It's also important to note that 1st Temple period Judaism is almost an entirely different religion than the "modern" Rabbinic Judaism that didn't begin until the 2nd Temple period, again, AFTER the Hebrew people were freed by Cyrus and allowed to return to the Levant. This isn't when the Noah story first appears in Judaism. Just a little food for thought



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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I always thought the great flood was basically about the flood plain between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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you really have to wonder how an ancient person who had no idea that there was even a western hemisphere would really know that THE WHOLE WORLD was flooded, vs. his own local area.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I'm inclined to agree. The archaeological record shows that there was a significant interruption in Sumerian civilization as a result of an extensive flood that occurred approximately 2900 BCE with artifacts below the flood deposits and above marking the change over in two periods of their history. There are definitely legitimate basis for the flood story supported by archaeology and geology. Just not a supernatural, world
Wide flood event as described in the Noah story.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313
you really have to wonder how an ancient person who had no idea that there was even a western hemisphere would really know that THE WHOLE WORLD was flooded, vs. his own local area.



You need to read up on the Phonetians , people got around back then , just as much as today



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Byrd
...because folks ARE retelling the Bible story.

What if ... the Bible Story is a re-telling of an older Bible Story ... the parts that can be remembered.


It is. It's a more ancient Sumerian myth.

There's a lot of information on this (Wikipedia will start you off)



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

What if it was the worlds oldest game of telephone...

Are we even getting the actual story anymore, or have we been told a complete work of fiction?



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: [post=22504345]
You need to read up on the Phonetians , people got around back then , just as much as today


i'm aware of the phoenicians... are you suggesting they surveyed the globe, confirmed a world-wide flood, passed that info on to an ancient hebrew tribesman, and then died in said global flood?




posted on Jul, 29 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: [post=22504345]
You need to read up on the Phonetians , people got around back then , just as much as today


i'm aware of the phoenicians... are you suggesting they surveyed the globe, confirmed a world-wide flood, passed that info on to an ancient hebrew tribesman, and then died in said global flood?



I think so after reading up on it , just like the Picts and Mayans the Phonetians vanish from history but the maps remained



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