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Top US general promises no changes in military transgender policy for now

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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Oh my.

Yeah there's documentaries about it. You'll never seen them on TV. I used to really harp about this stuff a decade ago. It's been known troops get lined up and take shots without even being told what they are. Not unlike some of the nasty business that goes on with testing drugs (and worse) on prison populations.




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Okay good go down to the VFW hall, talk to dozens of Gulf War and dozens of Vietnam vets. Ask them how the experimental drugs did them. And the Agent Orange. Try to find people with rough lungs, ask them if the weapons platforms they were firing were made of DU.

All that stuff can readily knock you dick in the dirt.

But quick every liberal out there Viagra Shame the vets.

And act like you actually care about human beings is why you are doing it!

First. Stop telling me my business. Second. I haven't said the word viagra within YEARS let alone in this thread, so step off. Third. You aren't a veteran and can't speak for us.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Krazysh0t

If you had their best interests in heart I'd argue you'd try to talk them out of joining.

Transgender people face alarmingly high risk of suicide
[Suicide attempts are alarmingly common among transgender individuals such as Lampe; 41% try to kill themselves at some point in their lives, compared with 4.6% of the general public. ]

New VA study finds 20 veterans commit suicide each day
[In 2014, the latest year available, more than 7,400 veterans took their own lives, accounting for 18 percent of all suicides in America. Veterans make up less than 9 percent of the U.S. population.]

But scoring political points and pushing that liberal social group warfare agenda trumps even you own base (considering you guys defend Radical Islam to the death when they'd throw the trans people off of skyscrapers for being trans).



This thread has nothing to do with radical Islam.

Let's talk about pushing agendas, LOL.


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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Byrd

This claim right here:

Trump's announcement on the transgender policy apparently was NOT something that the generals or anyone who holds a current military commission and is on active duty knew about.

is absolutely not supported by your link.

The reason that no action or changes will be taken is that Trump has not submitted a written, detailed, and signed directive that supports his statement yet, so of course no branches of the military are going to immediately react--it's not official policy, yet. Once Trump gives that to Mattis, then it becomes official on whatever date is noted in the policy.

But if you're implying that he doesn't have the power to change this policy and enforce it, you are full of error.



Actually, the link says they didn't know about it.

And what I'm saying is that he doesn't have the power to change it through Twitter. That he hasn't learned to govern... because if he had, he would have known that he had to deal with Mattis first and that Mattis would give the command. And Mattis (and the others) won't use a Tweet as a basis for any military policy. It has to be a clear directive and a written one.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

This thread is about this charade where you guys act like you're ALL about helping out the trans.

When we all know its just another BS liberal demagogue gimmick to morals shame the conservatives.

At least for the bulk of you whom aren't yourselves LBGT.

Just like with your phoney anti-war movement.

Just like how you defend Radical islam to the death while claiming your support LGBT to the death.

As made obvious in how absurdly the whole trans thing was handled last year obvious political sabotage against the conservatives with the trans people as the pawns.

And now this thing where one of the highest suicide rate groups in the WORLD, the liberal scene is now ushering them to rise up to this challenge of being accepted in the military with FREE surgeries as the BAIT... when the military hell from that stat I posted are perhaps the highest suicide rate group on earth.

The shamelessness with the liberal scene no no limits. Absolutely disgusting. And now you guys are spinning my calling it out as if I'm the ultimate scumbag or something. For stating facts? Facts are offensive? Right, just like science is racist and math is sexist in the collective mindset of the liberal horde.




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: testingtesting
Well my defense minister Sir Michael Fallon said this about the ban.

Sir Michael Fallon has denounced Donald Trump’s ban on transgender people serving in the military, saying it was “only right” that the military opposed all forms of discrimination.

Asked about the ban, the defence secretary told The Telegraph: "No, we don't support that ban. I want our military to be completely open. It is right that the military should be equally open to anybody, irrespective of their race, their colour, their gender their sexuality. That is only right."

To me If you are truly against discrimination you can not argue that he is wrong.

www.telegraph.co.uk...


So NO discrimination for the military?

So they can't discriminate against someone who can't pass the physical examines? That is a form of discrimination (aa good one).

They can't discriminate with someone based on a disease or illness?




Great point! And in the same line of thought, discrimination against those who cannot shoot straight, take lawful orders, only willing to eat Kobe beef, omg.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You're r confusing them with facts. Stop it.

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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Same here brother/



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:20 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: RomeByFire

This thread is about this charade where you guys act like you're ALL about helping out the trans.

When we all know its just another BS liberal demagogue gimmick to morals shame the conservatives.

At least for the bulk of you whom aren't yourselves LBGT.

Just like with your phoney anti-war movement.

Just like how you defend Radical islam to the death while claiming your support LGBT to the death.

As made obvious in how absurdly the whole trans thing was handled last year obvious political sabotage against the conservatives with the trans people as the pawns.

And now this thing where one of the highest suicide rate groups in the WORLD, the liberal scene is now ushering them to rise up to this challenge of being accepted in the military with FREE surgeries as the BAIT... when the military hell from that stat I posted are perhaps the highest suicide rate group on earth.

The shamelessness with the liberal scene no no limits. Absolutely disgusting. And now you guys are spinning my calling it out as if I'm the ultimate scumbag or something. For stating facts? Facts are offensive? Right, just like science is racist and math is sexist in the collective mindset of the liberal horde.



For the amount of times the word "you," was used, literally nothing you said applies to me.

But hey - keep ATS on that alt-right keel by ad Homs and off topic tirades about 'dem evil liberals!

I defend radical Islam to the death?

Really now! That's funny considering I detest all dragon tales and wizards in the sky who are omniscient and omnipotent.

You seem triggered


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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire



Since the two of you had roughly the same response to the same quote back to back, that was directed at the both of you and everyone else that agreed.



And I'm not Alt-Right, I'm Alt/Alt.




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: RomeByFire



Since the two of you had roughly the same response to the same quote back to back, that was directed at the both of you and everyone else that agreed.



And I'm not Alt-Right, I'm Alt/Alt.


I don't care what you call yourself. You present yourself as an alt-right conservative liberal hater every time you post. I have literally NEVER seen you speak to a liberal with respect towards their argument or positions. It is beyond obvious you are one of the biggest conservative partisans on this website.
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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Of course it won't be implemented right away. I wasn't aware a US president can rule by tweet.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Byrd

Of course it won't be implemented right away. I wasn't aware a US president can rule by tweet.

Who "implied" that?
LOL.



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