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DoD Spends $85 million a year on Viagra. But Trans people are the problem?

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 04:04 PM

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude

there are about 15,000 transgender in the military, out of 1.36 million.

only 33% of those will likely do elective surgery... I would think most would transition before or after enlisting.

trump claiming his decision was based on cost is absurd, especially considering how much is spent on limp dick.

so you are still full of # and not going to acknowledge that about 10% of your number is for active duty? How honest of you.

And the number of Transgender in the military is 2500 based on what the facts say. Facts, wow, something you kind of have to deal with if others aren't dumb enough to buy into your lies.

Well, a 2016 RAND Corporation study showed that of the approximately 1.3 million people who are considered active-duty members of the military in 2014, about 2,450 of them are transgender, making up about just 0.1-0.5 percent of the active-duty military. In addition, it’s estimated that about 1,510 transgender people serve in the Selected Reserve.

A link to offer proof as to what I say, something you should try when debating others.

posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 04:17 PM
You know there are many uses for Viagra that have nothing to do with ED?

7 Conditions Viagra is Used to Treat Besides ED

1. Diabetes

Researchers at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine noticed that Viagra relaxed the stomach muscles of animals, which could help the 75% of diabetic humans who have gastroparesis. The condition slows digestion and causes a loss of appetite and dehydration.

2. Altitude-related lung problems

German researchers found that when expert climbers were given Viagra, their bodies were more able to tolerate the lack of oxygen while they scaled a Himalayan peak.

3. Strokes

Researchers in Iceland found that Viagra may block a gene that affects the growth of blood vessels which leads to a greater risk of having a stroke.

4. Female sexual function ust like its function in men, Viagra helps female sexual function by increasing nitric oxide during arousal, which increases blood flow to women’s genitals.

5. Infertility

Approximately one in 20 women who seek treatment for infertility can’t conceive due to an overly thin uterine lining. That’s because even with the help of in vitro fertilization, the womb isn’t thick enough to hold an embryo. But Viagra seems to promote the growth of the lining of the uterus by dilating blood vessels.

6. Heart failure

Men who have experienced congestive heart failure (CHF) may be given a green light for exercise and sexual activity thanks to Viagra’s ability to lower blood pressure and heart rate.

This is particularly good news as up to 70% of men who have experienced CHF also have ED.

7. Preterm birth

A baby in England who was born 16 weeks early was given Viagra to open up her arteries in order to treat her heart and lung problems. The idea was to use Viagra to increase blood flow through the pulmonary artery from the heart to the lungs.

So really - why the hang up on Viagra?

How about you bring up the BILLIONS we're spending on SSRI drugs to care for veterans with PTSD?

2.7 Billion in 2011 alone.

IMO Transgender(s) should not be able to serve in any capacity in the Military.

Thank you President Trump.


posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 04:26 PM
a reply to: Painterz

Experimental drugs testings and many other factors could have caused their erectile dysfunction.

I'm rabidly opposed tot eh experimental testing BTW.

There are documentaries about it. The Gulf War is of particular note.

posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 05:14 PM

originally posted by: Painterz
Or maybe, alternatively, one can accept that lots of different people have lots of different healthcare needs, and the proper and humane thing is to treat them all equally and not single out one particular group for special exclusion because a vocal minority of your supporters just don't personally like them and it serves as a great distraction from other more important things going on?

nailed it... trying to take the focus off collusion with russia, the misguided bullying of sessions, and the flaming dumpster of trumpcare. this garbage human will literally destroy everything if he thinks it'll help him cover his ass.

posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 05:59 PM

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Having great sex for hours at a time when you're retired is no more medically necessary than taking hormones when you have gender dysphoria.

What in the hell is "gender dysphoria"! Where do these terms come from? They sound so legitimate as if it's a real medical condition. Good grief people, mutilating the human body through surgery to change sex isn't natural. I don't care how many ways you spin it.

posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:05 PM
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

You know, there are whole medical organizations that know about gender dysphoria and how to treat it. Why don't you let the experts handle it.

posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 07:08 PM

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

You know, there are whole medical organizations that know about gender dysphoria and how to treat it. Why don't you let the experts handle it.

Why? Because it isn't real. The world would be a better place if the "experts" could cure Leukemia for instance, which kills young people who only want a chance at life! That would be time and money well spent instead of making some emotionally challenged individual happy who can't figure if he/she wants to be a boy or a girl.

Why aren't there more cures for cancer? Because research and treatment is a booming industry. Gender change surgery is just a whole new field invented to make money. Call it whatever you like but it's misguided.

posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:24 AM
a reply to: Shamrock6

According to Military Times, the cost to the DOD for GRS is 8.4 million per year. 0.13% of the entire military budget. But it's really just smoke and mirrors. Trump is t saying that they shouldn't pay for GRS anymore or that it affects mission readiness. He's simply sayin that Transgendered individuals are no longer able to serve. If someone has surgery prior to enlisting and can pass all of the physical and mental standards... they're still excluded from service. So the issue of readiness isn't actually what this is all about. He didn't discuss this with the Pentagon ahead of time, he simply sent out a tweet.

posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 01:06 PM
a reply to: peter vlar

He didn't discuss this with the Pentagon ahead of time, he simply sent out a tweet.

And apparently the Joint Chiefs of Staff told Trump to go piss up a covfefe. No Change in policy.

Commander Combover needs to get with the program or embrace the or the other, believe me!

posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 02:40 PM

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: testingtesting
Trans folk ate the new group of people to hate for some they moved from gay folk to trans folk.
Freedom obviously only exists for some in the usa.

Slippery slope fallacies incoming.....

Get ready for that age old gem of "Where does it stop? First they want this, then they want that, then they want this...WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END".

Somehow equal rights has turned into an outlandish contagion effect.

How is this equal rights? You have the right to do what you want, get your sex change. You do not have the right to make me pay for it.

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