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DoD Spends $85 million a year on Viagra. But Trans people are the problem?

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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So just to put some perspective on this whole Trump banning Trans people because of the totally unproven economic 'burden'.

Here's a proven economic burden for you:


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Data from the Defense Health Agency indicate the U.S. Department of Defense spent $41.6 million on Viagra and $84.24 million total on drugs for erectile dysfunction in 2014.

Since 2011, the bill for covering drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra for active and retired military personnel and eligible family members totalled $294 million -- nearly as much as four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, says the Military Times.

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Sounds like Trans people getting treatment is nothing, and Trump should really be going after all those men who just can't get it up.


Or maybe, alternatively, one can accept that lots of different people have lots of different healthcare needs, and the proper and humane thing is to treat them all equally and not single out one particular group for special exclusion because a vocal minority of your supporters just don't personally like them and it serves as a great distraction from other more important things going on?



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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Painterz


it turns out that less than 10 percent of these documented prescriptions were actually for the troops.


Some perspective for your perspective.

Some of us are actually more concerned with mission readiness medical issues, of which a limp dick is not one.


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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Elective surgery such as a sex change makes a soldier non-combat ready.


Military medicals purpose is to keep soldiers combat ready. Why should they do the opposite?
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

I only briefly glanced through the source article. Did it break it down by active vs retired military?
My dad is a vet and has/does utilize the VA for a lot of medical care.

I have no issue with paying for vets getting Viagra. It's the least we can do in repayment for their service.
Veterans deserve all the benefits they have coming to them. Too bad many more don't take advantage of them.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: peter_kandra

Yep.


The Military Times says that while some studies have found ED has become a growing health problem for service members in the last few years,it turns out that less than 10 percent of these documented prescriptions were actually for the troops. The rest went to retirees or family members covered by military health plans.

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Wait till the bill comes in for gender reassignment surgery, mental evaluations, hormones and the meds...We could give every man on earth an erection for the price all that's gonna cost!!


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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Perhaps this is a reason to have a system where the VA can negotiate for the drug prices like many many other industrialized nations do?


Bush and Obama didn't think of that, or should I say they were lobbied to not think of negotiations for lower drug costs.
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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Trans folk ate the new group of people to hate for some they moved from gay folk to trans folk.
Freedom obviously only exists for some in the usa.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
Trans folk ate the new group of people to hate for some they moved from gay folk to trans folk.
Freedom obviously only exists for some in the usa.


Slippery slope fallacies incoming.....

Get ready for that age old gem of "Where does it stop? First they want this, then they want that, then they want this...WHERE WILL THE MADNESS END".

Somehow equal rights has turned into an outlandish contagion effect.
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: peter_kandra

Yep.


The Military Times says that while some studies have found ED has become a growing health problem for service members in the last few years,it turns out that less than 10 percent of these documented prescriptions were actually for the troops. The rest went to retirees or family members covered by military health plans.


It's an unnecessary expense that shouldn't be covered. I sure don't want my tax dollars going towards it. Save us a ton of money.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: peter_kandra

Yep.


The Military Times says that while some studies have found ED has become a growing health problem for service members in the last few years,it turns out that less than 10 percent of these documented prescriptions were actually for the troops. The rest went to retirees or family members covered by military health plans.


It's an unnecessary expense that shouldn't be covered. I sure don't want my tax dollars going towards it. Save us a ton of money.


You determine what's medically necessary now?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: peter_kandra

Yep.


The Military Times says that while some studies have found ED has become a growing health problem for service members in the last few years,it turns out that less than 10 percent of these documented prescriptions were actually for the troops. The rest went to retirees or family members covered by military health plans.


It's an unnecessary expense that shouldn't be covered. I sure don't want my tax dollars going towards it. Save us a ton of money.


You determine what's medically necessary now?


Having great sex for hours at a time when you're retired is no more medically necessary than taking hormones when you have gender dysphoria.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

So....medically necessary, but you don't want to have to pay for either one.

That we can agree on.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Yea! Let the paraplegics in and give them jobs as truck drivers, let the blind in and give them an F16 to fly!
Don't discriminate, love!

This is about equality and feelings not national security!



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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If they said the plan to put Transgenders into primarily combat roles and infantry, I bet there would be a big stink about that. Some folks just like to complain, no matter what the reason.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Where have I heard this comparison before?????? oh yea, birth control arguments.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Pay for one, pay for both. Or, pay for neither.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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Data from the Defense Health Agency indicate the U.S. Department of Defense spent $41.6 million on Viagra and $84.24 million total on drugs for erectile dysfunction in 2014.


I wish I could say I am surprised, but I am not. Priorities in government spending...



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