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Trump Tweets NO Transgender in Military

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: DrStevenBrule

The majority of Americans do not agree with 99% of Trump's agenda. He won a bad election with terrible turn out numbers. 2020 will be an entirely different animal. Trump will not be reelected.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Having a sex change is not even close as racial discrimination, one was a social issue, the other one a personal choice.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: SudoNim




They are now being discriminated against because of their sexuality.


How so since it's as easy as changing ones shoes?


Because if you identify as being transgender, President Trump has just stated you are not allowed to serve.

Simple enough for you?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Since a person is born one of two ways.

Male or female.

Can't claim Equal rights when people decide to change themselves in to one or the 'other'.

You can't argue with DNA.

There's no such thing as 'transgender'.

It's a made up word.

Political neologism to be exact.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: neo96


Right because everyone in the LGBT community is just running off to try to join the military.


Doesn't matter how many. Even if only one wants to join, he/she should have that right.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

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He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Which has nothing to do with banning transgenders from the military.
Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT? I ask because you seem to have broadly associated a military decision with an entire community, most of which does not even relate to transgenders.


Equal rights.

Enough said.



Exactly - equal rights.
A transgender can wear the same uniform, follow the same rules and receive the same benefits as any other man, or woman (in the case of F2M)
Equal.


Are you just ignorant or deluded in some way, you are completely ignoring what Trump has stated.


No, I think your are hysterical.
If a guy who likes to wear womens clothing wants to join the military, he doesn't have to declare it. So long as he plays by the rules who is going to know?
If he has had surgery then he no longer qualifies for the military - again equal rights as like anyone else they would would fail the tests for valid reasons.

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edit on 26/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody

The difference is a person with a physical disability cannot perform their duties. The same does not apply to transgenders. If they're willing to serve and they can make it through basic why should they not be allowed to serve?


They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment.
I seriously doubt there will be a 'transgender test' if someone want to sign up.


Strange that you seem to be making up your own rules here.

This is what Trump said.

"United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."

If you consider yourself Transgender you are not allowed in any capacity.

No where did he say "They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment".

Stop lieing.



do most Transgender folks wear a "T" on their shirt sleeves, or are they using Tattoos these days?


No, but i'm guessing your the kind of folk to rock a swastika on his.

There are 1000's of transgender individuals currently serving, ones who passed all required tests to serve. They are now being discriminated against because of their gender.


say they are huh? Could you show me where they announced they were Transgender before they joined? If they didn't, then they really don't have a leg to stand on, as you don't. The military is a basic operations kind of thing. Too many moving parts will screw things up. And rather than spend time, money and lives to find a way to cope with the new "moving parts" common sense dictates you remove the offending parts and move the # on.

If you are a transgender and in the military, and have been able to do your job without calling attention to the fact that you are in fact a "T", then continue to do your job and STFU. If you want to be a drama queen (as you seem to be) then jump up and down, throw a tantrum and see where you end up.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Liquesence

Since a person is born one of two ways.

Male or female.

Can't claim Equal rights when people decide to change themselves in to one or the 'other'.

You can't argue with DNA.

There's no such thing as 'transgender'.


Is a person born a male is equal to a person born a female (and vice versa) then male or female are equal.

It doesn't matter whether they at some point switch over, because the two are still equal.

Switching doesn't make them less equal.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: neo96

The political correctness in the nation along with the liberal agenda has created the new now transgender crisis in the nation.

The media, the medical communities and those behind the new crusade behind transgenderism are lying to the nation, sex change is a big issue, that have no only physical ramifications but mental issues also



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Xcalibur254

The problem is no about the capabilities of performing a job, but the cost of keeping an maintaining a personal choice.








posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: EchoesInTime

I am not even going to read a single post, but address the title.
There has always been a certain base requirement in the military services, and they have been put there for a reason. When seconds count, distractions can get you killed. Combat is no fashion statement or social Gayla or party, it's serious business, lives count on it. Along with physical conditioning there is mental conditioning that most likely will keep you alive. The military is not about your crotch or genitals, or outward appearance, it's about a team effort without distractions. There have always been accommodations for mental acuity, and they sort of resemble a caste system in that there have been different IQ. 'means' (averages) established. The Air Force, then the Army and Navy followed by the Marines. Never the less all are US Military. No one service caters to a particular IQ. level, it's just that entrance requirements vary, and are reflected accordingly. By design or happenstance, anyone in, or having been a Veteran will have observed this.

The military certainly does not need to, or should it be required to cater to the whims of the mentally challenged or social 'trends' of a small malcontent populace.

Anything but heterosexual behavior should be eliminated and not encouraged. It's THAT SIMPLE.

I am a Veteran, I know that of which I speak. President Trump is on the Right Track to be sure.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence




Is a person born a male is equal to a person born a female (and vice versa) then male or female are equal.


Can't both men and woman already join the military ?

Yep.

So the issue is what ?

Other than the SJW's manufacturing another victim 'class' because they hate Trump.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody

The difference is a person with a physical disability cannot perform their duties. The same does not apply to transgenders. If they're willing to serve and they can make it through basic why should they not be allowed to serve?


They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment.
I seriously doubt there will be a 'transgender test' if someone want to sign up.


Strange that you seem to be making up your own rules here.

This is what Trump said.

"United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."

If you consider yourself Transgender you are not allowed in any capacity.

No where did he say "They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment".

Stop lieing.



do most Transgender folks wear a "T" on their shirt sleeves, or are they using Tattoos these days?


No, but i'm guessing your the kind of folk to rock a swastika on his.

There are 1000's of transgender individuals currently serving, ones who passed all required tests to serve. They are now being discriminated against because of their gender.


say they are huh? Could you show me where they announced they were Transgender before they joined? If they didn't, then they really don't have a leg to stand on, as you don't. The military is a basic operations kind of thing. Too many moving parts will screw things up. And rather than spend time, money and lives to find a way to cope with the new "moving parts" common sense dictates you remove the offending parts and move the # on.

If you are a transgender and in the military, and have been able to do your job without calling attention to the fact that you are in fact a "T", then continue to do your job and STFU . If you want to be a drama queen (as you seem to be) then jump up and down, throw a tantrum and see where you end up.


Exactly right. Goes for new people that want to join too.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: DBCowboy

Having a sex change is not even close as racial discrimination, one was a social issue, the other one a personal choice.





Sexual identity, in my opinion, should always remain in the bedroom and not on stage.

But I'm not in charge. So We have to deal with this openly.

If people want to serve, and they are physically and mentally capable of serving, then they should be given the opportunity to do so.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Liquesence

Since a person is born one of two ways.

Male or female.

Can't claim Equal rights when people decide to change themselves in to one or the 'other'.

You can't argue with DNA.

There's no such thing as 'transgender'.


Is a person born a male is equal to a person born a female (and vice versa) then male or female are equal.

It doesn't matter whether they at some point switch over, because the two are still equal.

Switching doesn't make them less equal.


Women and men are not equal and never will be.
They both have equal rights - but are FAR from equal.
But that is besides the point.
edit on 26/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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If it's a monetary reason I'm ok with that. If it's bigotry, screw em. Btw, what's with the tweets? No deniability then. Either he doesn't care or assumes his followers don't.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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ooop, right as the EU was starting it's "anti-nusra" LGBT brigade.... what a pity for the EUro#ers



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Tekaran

Except due to Jrs emails we know he did collude with Russia.







posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

What about religious discrimination? Are you okay with that? Religion is a personal choice. Would it be okay to ban Christians from the military?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: neo96

The political correctness in the nation along with the liberal agenda has created the new now transgender crisis in the nation.

The media, the medical communities and those behind the new crusade behind transgenderism are lying to the nation, sex change is a big issue, that have no only physical ramifications but mental issues also





Then they will turn and scream foul.

Since both the military and TG's have a high suicide rate.

Politics should stay out of the military it's been decades since they have won a war our POLITICIANS start.




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