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Trump Tweets NO Transgender in Military

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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

You mean Gender dysphoria, and you saying it isn't, well does end means absolute squat lol. Zilch, Nada. Zero.
edit on 27-7-2017 by omniEther because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: network dude
Is joining the military a right, or a privilege? If it's a right, then nobody would ever "wash out", but they do. Why? because they couldn't adapt to the military way. It's not a crime, it's a fact.


But there are already thousands of transgender folk servicing that didn't wash out. Trump's major excuse for excluding them is "medical costs", he says, not fitness.



Oh, really? List them.

Keep hearing that claim, but where's the proof?


I saw a number from the DOD that 250 soldiers have requested there gender to be changed. So active duty is probably very low. The reserves and the guard I bet are considerably higher. Trans people tend to have a problem finding employment so the guard is a great way to suppliment income.


That's possible. I know we never encountered anyone like that. Reserves and guard, who knows? Perhaps, but even there, I'd bet there are very, very few.

I wonder how many of that 250 enlisted after O's pronouncement?



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: network dude
Is joining the military a right, or a privilege? If it's a right, then nobody would ever "wash out", but they do. Why? because they couldn't adapt to the military way. It's not a crime, it's a fact.


But there are already thousands of transgender folk servicing that didn't wash out. Trump's major excuse for excluding them is "medical costs", he says, not fitness.



Oh, really? List them.

Keep hearing that claim, but where's the proof?


LOL! You want me to provide you with a list of all the transgender members of the armed services? RICH! Only on ATS!

www.rand.org...


It's already been shown in this thread that your study doesn't say what you believe it says.

No, there are not that many.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
It's already been shown in this thread that your study doesn't say what you believe it says.

No, there are not that many.

No ... there certainly aren't. There are exactly 47 trannies serving openly in the US Army on Active Duty.

Exactly 47. That's a far cry shorter than all these other people who 'need' to embellish the numbers for 'impact'. Everything they want to have people believe ... is simply a bunch of lives to further their narrative. I'm just so sick of them lying every time they open their mouths. For that reason alone I'm glad Trump kicked their sorry asses to the curb.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

Trannies? You mean the men who wear women's dresses like Klinger?



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: AMPTAH

"Hey Fido why did you just hump that male dog while there's female dogs available around you?"


Because she wasn't in heat, and gave me the evil eye when I approached her. Woof !



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

Woof indeed.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 12:26 AM
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You do realize that the article and video are from the Obama Administration in June 2016?? Correct? That is not recent.


originally posted by: windword
a reply to: matafuchs

The ban was lifted,
Pentagon lifts trans military ban ‘effective immediately’



Currently there are 1000s of transgender men and women serving in the US military.

edit on 28-7-2017 by Diabolical1972 because: (no reason given)

edit on 28-7-2017 by Diabolical1972 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: omniEther

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: omniEther

Women pee from there so by your logic it's not natural.
pee from where? You are women don't uinate through their Anus ,no?

You said anal penetration is not natural due to them pooping from there so by your logic vaginal penetration is not natural due to them peeing from there.


Wow your not good at biology and I guess zero experience with women. Women do not pee from their vaginas.Urine exits from a separate body part called the urethra. A vaginal opening was designed for penetration however your anal passage was not. This is why it causes damage when it is done to muscles and tissue.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: omniEther

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: omniEther

Women pee from there so by your logic it's not natural.
pee from where? You are women don't uinate through their Anus ,no?

You said anal penetration is not natural due to them pooping from there so by your logic vaginal penetration is not natural due to them peeing from there.


Wow your not good at biology and I guess zero experience with women. Women do not pee from their vaginas.Urine exits from a separate body part called the urethra. A vaginal opening was designed for penetration however your anal passage was not. This is why it causes damage when it is done to muscles and tissue.


They do pee from their vaginas.
I've plenty of experiences with women including anal sex with them.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Mate the urethra and vaginal cavity are different parts of the female genitalia check a physiology book or better yet ask a female friend to show you



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 06:30 AM
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Trump trolled all of you. And you all fell for it again. He did not make an EO to ban transgenders.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Is that a good thing? Do you want a President who trolls the people he his meant to serve? Its an embarrassment.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:18 AM
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General Dunford said there will no changes in the policy for now. You can stop getting your panties in a bunch.
abcnews.go.com...



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LSU0408

Well Yee Haw, cornpone ... glad I made you smile.

Is this really the best you folks can come up with???


It's not a competition. Just calling it like I see it. I noticed I wasn't the only one either.


Wow, three ATS posters think something is true?

That settles it, huh.

/eyeroll

Why don't you diddle with someone else if all you have is shilling accusations ... I'm busy with the rest of the nutters.


Three out of the five that are currently posting. If this was a CNN poll, 60% of ATS'ers believe you're a hypocrite.


Awww ... did the coin toss tell you to believe in polls now, sunshine?

Let me put it another way ... who cares?

You've told us that you think trans folks are second-class citizens ... what else do you need to say?


No, I don't believe in polls, especially CNN polls. It went right over your head.

Nice twist... By your logic I also think disabled people are second class, since they can't serve either, which is factually wrong...



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LSU0408

You may want to start a thread then ... because the military spends about five times as much on VIAGRA as on any sort of treatment for trans soldiers.

You know, if you have the courage of your convictions and all.


Why would I start a thread? I said anyone in need of Viagra (something you brought up) needs to get it on their own, same as birth control, same as mutilating yourself because you're angry over the sex you were born as.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Again, no it wasn't.

So the evangelical Christians such as Pence never mentioned it?
Sure.


If they did, I never heard about it.

LOL.


You have to remember, for some of these folks, if they didn't hear it, it didn't happen.

A bit solipsistic for my taste, or is that narcissistic?


You're more than welcome to point out to me where I said it never happened. I SAID I never heard anything about it until the trannies started wanting special privileges which is what got us here in the first place.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes



It's already been shown in this thread that your study doesn't say what you believe it says.


In this thread? Well! I stand corrected. Now, if someone could just the inform the DoD, who commissioned the company to do the study for them, as it seems they haven't read this thread, and are pushing this fake news! LOL



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LSU0408

You may want to start a thread then ... because the military spends about five times as much on VIAGRA as on any sort of treatment for trans soldiers.

You know, if you have the courage of your convictions and all.


Why would I start a thread? I said anyone in need of Viagra (something you brought up) needs to get it on their own, same as birth control, same as mutilating yourself because you're angry over the sex you were born as.


IF the outrage you're expressing/agreeing with here really had anything to do with the real or potential "cost" of trans folks in the military, then, logically, you'd be five times as outraged that our tax dollars are used to supply old men with boners.

The point is, that's not the source of your "outrage" or anyone else's here. You're against trans Americans having the same rights as you do.

Just own it ... it's okay.



posted on Jul, 28 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Again, no it wasn't.

So the evangelical Christians such as Pence never mentioned it?
Sure.


If they did, I never heard about it.

LOL.


You have to remember, for some of these folks, if they didn't hear it, it didn't happen.

A bit solipsistic for my taste, or is that narcissistic?


You're more than welcome to point out to me where I said it never happened. I SAID I never heard anything about it until the trannies started wanting special privileges which is what got us here in the first place.


"Trannies" ? ... nice. I guess you're thrilled you can "get away" with that slur, aren't you?

No one is asking for "special rights" ... you guys keep dredging that garbage argument up and it still stinks.

They're asking for the same rights as every other American; to serve our military. We cover our soldiers' medical costs.

The only thing "special" here is that some of you advocate for some Americans being treated as second-class citizens ... or worse.

This crap is never going to happen anyway, and now, Trump is shown even more clearly for the liar he is.

#win



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