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Trump Tweets NO Transgender in Military

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Right because everyone in the LGBT community is just running off to try to join the military.

The only thing Trump critics are doing is pushing the military faster for drone warfare.

So they don't have to put of with this BS.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence


He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Come on. Don't be silly. It clearly stands for Trump. He's such a sexual tyrannosaurus that he transcends traditional sexual orientations.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

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He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Which has nothing to do with banning transgenders from the military.
Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT? I ask because you seem to have broadly associated a military decision with an entire community, most of which does not even relate to transgenders.
edit on 26/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
The Military under Matthias is laser focused on working on its core mission, projecting force and dominating the battlefield. Transgenders in the military is not something that overall strengthens our military capacity. It's a good call. The Military needs to execute like a well oiled machine, this was something like sand in it's gears.


The loudest who are against this likely never served and have no earthly idea why what you say is completely true.
There are many things in the military that are much stricter than civilian life, and for very good reason. Lives depend on it.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

I'm sure there are plenty of transgender people that could pass both. I'm sure there a plenty secretly serving in the military as we speak. So why should they not be allowed to serve?

They are probably not open about it and most likely know how to evaluate themselves given their experience. I'm sure their are some closet gays and trans. Go to formation, do your duty, shoot the sh# come home and put on the Apron, cool keep it their, nobody ever knows, nobody needs to know, cause you know, personal life.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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I'm sure there are plenty of transgender people that could pass both


No they couldn't.

Basic is all about getting torn down mentally.

Many people wash out.

Warfare is the hardest thing ANYONE will ever do.

Days,weeks,MONTHS, YEARS of doing without.

Even the best people have major problems.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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Would have been more sensible to allow transgender people that have paid for their own operations to join instead of just having a blanket ban and antagonising another bunch of people for no good reason.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: EchoesInTime


Best tweet ever! Epic meltdown inevitable!


Those who already hated the POTUS will try to say this makes them hate him more. Bet Putin is pissed, he would love to go up against a military that was SJW'd to death!



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

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He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Which has nothing to do with banning transgenders from the military.
Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT? I ask because you seem to have broadly associated a military decision with an entire community, most of which does not even relate to transgenders.


Equal rights.

Enough said.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

The problem is no about the capabilities of performing a job, but the cost of keeping an maintaining a personal choice.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody

The difference is a person with a physical disability cannot perform their duties. The same does not apply to transgenders. If they're willing to serve and they can make it through basic why should they not be allowed to serve?


They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment.
I seriously doubt there will be a 'transgender test' if someone want to sign up.


Strange that you seem to be making up your own rules here.

This is what Trump said.

"United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."

If you consider yourself Transgender you are not allowed in any capacity.

No where did he say "They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment".

Stop lieing.



do most Transgender folks wear a "T" on their shirt sleeves, or are they using Tattoos these days?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

Link

He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT?


What? How would that be considered anti-LGBT?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Transitions are always difficult.

Integration based on color was an issue for some.

This is a non-issue that will become a major issue now. Just look at the bile and vitriol on the pages here.

CNN and MSNBC must be having fits right now and are probably having grand mal seizures.


Bottom line, if you're willing to die for your country, you should have that right.

But I don't make the rules. If I did, things would be quite different.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

Link

He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Which has nothing to do with banning transgenders from the military.
Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT? I ask because you seem to have broadly associated a military decision with an entire community, most of which does not even relate to transgenders.


Equal rights.

Enough said.



Exactly - equal rights.
A transgender can wear the same uniform, follow the same rules and receive the same benefits as any other man, or woman (in the case of F2M)
Equal.

edit on 26/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Both genders wear the same uniform so I don't think your point makes sense. What u think this more involve's is you become government property. If you break an arm you can be punished by article 14. Taking someone out of rediness to change sexes makes them incapable of doing their job.

Also why should the military pay for an operation that no one would pay for on any insurance. This is elective surgery you choose to do this just like a face lift. The military isn't there to make you feel better about yourself.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence




Equal rights


There's no right to join the military.

Every job has requirements.

Nice to see the TG version affirmative action in play.

Only there because of the sexual choice instead of their skin color.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody

The difference is a person with a physical disability cannot perform their duties. The same does not apply to transgenders. If they're willing to serve and they can make it through basic why should they not be allowed to serve?


They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment.
I seriously doubt there will be a 'transgender test' if someone want to sign up.


Strange that you seem to be making up your own rules here.

This is what Trump said.

"United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."

If you consider yourself Transgender you are not allowed in any capacity.

No where did he say "They can - as long as they wear a male uniform like the rest of the men, pass all the tests, and don't ask for special treatment".

Stop lieing.



do most Transgender folks wear a "T" on their shirt sleeves, or are they using Tattoos these days?


No, but i'm guessing your the kind of folk to rock a swastika on his.

There are 1000's of transgender individuals currently serving, ones who passed all required tests to serve. They are now being discriminated against because of their gender.
edit on 26-7-2017 by SudoNim because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Once a liar, always a liar.

Just telling people whatever the hell they want to hear.

Link

He probably didn't even know the 'T' stands for transgender, but probably something like "tremendous."


Which has nothing to do with banning transgenders from the military.
Was every administration prior to 2016, when transgenders were allowed to serve in the military, anti-LGBT? I ask because you seem to have broadly associated a military decision with an entire community, most of which does not even relate to transgenders.


Equal rights.

Enough said.



Exactly - equal rights.
A transgender can wear the same uniform, follow the same rules and receive the same benefits as any other man, or woman (in the case of F2M)
Equal.


Are you just ignorant or deluded in some way, you are completely ignoring what Trump has stated.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: SudoNim




They are now being discriminated against because of their sexuality.


How so since it's as easy as changing ones shoes?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Liquesence




Equal rights


There's no right to join the military.

Every job has requirements.

Nice to see the TG version affirmative action in play.



They have the right to serve if they meet the requirements.

As such, simply being transgendered should not be a factor in the willingness to accept, hence equal rights.


Only there because of the sexual choice instead of their skin color.


Exactly. Equal rights and not being discriminated against because of being transgendered.




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