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Trump Tweets NO Transgender in Military

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posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: UKTruth

Chris Kyle the proven liar?.


I don't care if a military person lies about whether he punched Ventura or beat up some Mexicans as long as they can shoot straight and kill the enemy. In fact, I care about it as little as I do about transgenders feelings in the military.




But you clearly do care, because a military person who can shoot straight and kill the enemy but identifies as transgender is not acceptable to you on a personal level.

You could have a male, female and transgender military personnel all of the same ability yet you only want the male... that is your own hangup and agenda being exposed and not their fault you have insecurities.




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Not in the slightest, just pointing out that a 10 year old can kill you with a weapon as sure as any adult no matter there sexual orientation.

I'm not advocating children in the military but there are plenty of paramilitary and 2 bit armed forces around the globe with 10 year old children playing solider, that's a fact unfortunately.
edit on 27-7-2017 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Logarock


Well you have a club for of hundreds and not one move on the guy. I would say that was indicative.

Because the club was dark, the shooting, at first outside, getting closer and closer, people beginning to panic and run every direction, now the (very loud) firing inside-- Bam bam ba-bam!, people dropping, the floor becoming slick with blood.

The wave of panic was understandable, the reaction by everyone is to run , away from gunfire, not towards it...

duh



Chicken spits really. Make all the excuses you want.

You're lining up to be a statistic. Many of the people that hid survived, were rescued form the bathroom when they blew out the wall and freed them.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: marg6043

... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...


After nearly 50 pages, I still haven't seen it mentioned a single time.

How much money do us taxpayers foot for Trump's trips/stays to Maralago?

This has nothing to do with having a frugal government. At all.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...


Juxtapose the amount of Trans soldiers (less than one-half of 1%) seeking Trans meds , prescriptions and surgeries to the millions of active duty and retired military, and you might realize that it is not a great comparison.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: TheTory

So you're okay with taxpayers dollars being used to bolster failing erections?

Noted.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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Does allowing trans soldiers have any benefit to the military at all? No.

It would hurt recruiting and retention most definitely. I personally have heard career military people and people from families with long history of service both deciding to end careers early and recommending young people stay away because of this. If accommodating.03% of the population alienates something like 25% of a population already inclined to serve enough to not even consider serving how does that help?A definite negative impact there.

Does it hurt or hinder training and readiness? I don't have the answer there. My instinct tells me it would hurt if for no other reason than training time will be used to attempt to get most of the force comfortable enough to deal with it. Time that could be better spent training first aid, nbc, weapons, tactics, or a host of other more important things. A service member who transitions would be non deployable for an extended amount of time.


Look to be honest I personally do not care if Joe wants to be Jane at the drag show off duty. His business his life. I do however strongly object to being forced to participate in Joe's delusion by referring to him as her during duty. That it's what this whole trans gender ideology seems to be about not merely acceptance but forcing everyone too participate.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: marg6043

... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...


After nearly 50 pages, I still haven't seen it mentioned a single time.

How much money do us taxpayers foot for Trump's trips/stays to Maralago?

This has nothing to do with having a frugal government. At all.


Yeah, it also has nothing to do with "military preparedness."

Same ol' prejudices desperately masquerading as legitimate "concerns."

SSDD



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: marg6043

... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...


Just saw recently that Viagra is a part of the treatment for PTSD, as well as a couple of medical conditions other than ED.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: jefwane

... and perhaps you "hear" what you want to ... the favorite gambit of "this is only X amount of the population" has nothing to do with it.

Citations abound today of everyone from the Joint Chiefs to Justin Trudeau making the clear point that ALL citizens who which to SERVE THEIR NATION and are ABLE TO DO SO should be ALLOWED TO DO SO.

Stop trying to suggest that everyone is as close-minded as you evidently are.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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So you're okay with taxpayers dollars being used to bolster failing erections?

Noted.


And you for hormone therapy, cosmetic surgery, and the rest for trans people?

Got it.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: marg6043

... but you have no issue with VIAGRA being doled out by the handful on the taxpayers dollar?

Our military spends FIVE TIMES as much on VIAGRA as it would on TG healthcare.

Nah, nothing out of "whack" here ...


Just saw recently that Viagra is a part of the treatment for PTSD, as well as a couple of medical conditions other than ED.



Riiight.

And hormones are a treatment for skin conditions....
edit on 27-7-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66



So you're okay with taxpayers dollars being used to bolster failing erections?

Noted.


And you for hormone therapy, cosmetic surgery, and the rest for trans people?

Got it.


Wow, stunning revelation there, eh?




posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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Gender has nothing to do with sex. There are two sexes, male and female. There are infinite numbers of genders. Being transgender is a psychology. It does not have to come with a sex change. Federer can wake up one morning, refers to himself as a woman, and become a transgender.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




Wow, stunning revelation there, eh?


Not stunning at all. Quite typical.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66




Wow, stunning revelation there, eh?


Not stunning at all. Quite typical.


You forgot to Harumpf.

Make an actual argument or move on, Skippy.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




You forgot to Harumpf.

Make an actual argument or move on, Skippy.


Like your false comparison between boner pills and trans surgeries? Not even I can muster that conceit.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66




You forgot to Harumpf.

Make an actual argument or move on, Skippy.


Like your false comparison between boner pills and trans surgeries? Not even I can muster that conceit.


There is no comparison. Five times more taxpayer dollars are used for ED meds than would be used for any imagined "trans surgeries."

The fact that you are desperately trying to muddy the water of this so-called debate by focusing on the percentage you think is right for trans folks in the military is blatant.

Can you challenge my statement of fact? If so, do so. If not, please move on to another subject for your pointless trolling.



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

No I won't challenge your statement of fact, but I will and have challenged your specious attempt to conflate the two. I think we both know that though you've stolen a talking point, you haven't been able to steal a logical argument.




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