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Trump Tweets NO Transgender in Military

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

The better word would be 'discriminating' - more accurate and still drives progs crazy. Two-fer.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Grambler

So don't pay for the transition. Make it a requirement that military service must be before or after the transition. Sounds like a fair compromise to me.

Remember when white soldiers were "uncomfortable" serving with black soldiers? They got over it.


You may be right.

I fully admit to basically being ignorant on what trans impact of military effectiveness in our military is.

It seems there is anecdotal evidence both ways.

But again, the military is not a social experiment.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Snarl


The problem with trannies is the same problem with homosexuals. They've lived their entire lives as liars. This is a growing realization in the security community. You've got an insider over there that absolutely cannot be trusted to tell you the truth.

Further, they think they have to violate laws and break rules to achieve a level playing field.



wow

so - thats problaly how you think about immigrants too ?

Here - if a person is openly and honestly explaining and owning up to who they are and they want to go fight, and they can get into fitness shap along with all the other volunteers, what difference does it make




Further, they think they have to violate laws and break rules to achieve a level playing field. Next you're dealing with SJWs defending 'these people' for the bad choices they've made. The trannies serving in uniform right now are comparable to illegal immigrants. They need to go to jail.


because when you want to fight, jail is worse than going to war and




edit on 26-7-2017 by MortonBunkum because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: EchoesInTime


Can he do that? I thought the "transgender in the military" thing was a done deal, scheduled to start "like yesterday", but has been delayed.

He is the head hancho in the military. Nobody has anymore military authority than he.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You quoted my whole post, but I don't think you read my whole post.


I did. I replied to the part that was an incorrect comparison.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You quoted my whole post, but I don't think you read my whole post.


I did. I replied to the part that was an incorrect comparison.

you know about this stuff how?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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Here's some data on the cost of trangender related care in the armed services in the US.

fortune.com...


But a 2016 RAND study commissioned by the Pentagon itself contradicts the President's rationale, finding that the medical costs for transgender military members would be an "exceedingly small portion of active-component health care expenditures."

By analyzing private health insurance data on gender transition-related expenditures, (such as hormone therapy or surgical treatment, for instance), researchers found that Military Health System costs could increase by $2.4 million and $8.4 million per year if it were extended to cover the estimated 1,320 to 6,630 transgender people in the military. This amount pales in comparison to the Department of Defense's $49.3 billion health care expenditures in 2014, for example, and would represent between 0.005% to 0.017% of the department's overall health care costs, according to the study.


Here is a comparison of transgender costs to other costs, particularly "peenie pop-up pills", in the US military for the 2015 budget.

www.businessinsider.com...




edit on 26-7-2017 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: MortonBunkum

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You quoted my whole post, but I don't think you read my whole post.


I did. I replied to the part that was an incorrect comparison.

you know about this stuff how?


You have proof that blacks wanted to medically change their skin color or ethnicity?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: MortonBunkum

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You quoted my whole post, but I don't think you read my whole post.


I did. I replied to the part that was an incorrect comparison.

you know about this stuff how?


You have proof that blacks wanted to medically change their skin color or ethnicity?

I doubt she meant that. Her point was that some people would be uncomfortable with transgender people fighting besides them.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

We can agree Cialis and Viagra both need to go. And that last line is a non-issue now.

Savings!



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
a reply to: ipsedixit

We can agree Cialis and Viagra both need to go. And that last line is a non-issue now.

Savings!

And have another Jack Ripper?



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: ipsedixit
Here's some data on the cost of trangender related care in the armed services in the US.

fortune.com...


But a 2016 RAND study commissioned by the Pentagon itself contradicts the President's rationale, finding that the medical costs for transgender military members would be an "exceedingly small portion of active-component health care expenditures."

By analyzing private health insurance data on gender transition-related expenditures, (such as hormone therapy or surgical treatment, for instance), researchers found that Military Health System costs could increase by $2.4 million and $8.4 million per year if it were extended to cover the estimated 1,320 to 6,630 transgender people in the military. This amount pales in comparison to the Department of Defense's $49.3 billion health care expenditures in 2014, for example, and would represent between 0.005% to 0.017% of the department's overall health care costs, according to the study.


Here is a comparison of transgender costs to other costs, particularly "peenie pop-up pills", in the US military for the 2015 budget.

www.businessinsider.com...





Those numbers certainly paint a different picture than what I've seen saying. Tiny dollars compared with typical military stuff, and the blue pills really have me laughing.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: MortonBunkum

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You quoted my whole post, but I don't think you read my whole post.


I did. I replied to the part that was an incorrect comparison.

you know about this stuff how?


You have proof that blacks wanted to medically change their skin color or ethnicity?

I doubt she meant that. Her point was that some people would be uncomfortable with transgender people fighting besides them.


I'm not arguing that part because I don't disagree. Assuming they haven't undergone any hormonal therapy or plastic surgery, normal soldiers would probably have less problem than with gays.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

But if a person can do the job they should be able to do it this isn't about allowing anyone in the military If a person Trans, gay or whatever is qualified to do the job why not?.
I don't buy other personal being less effective because there is a trans person in the squad heck I thought they are supposed to be the best of the best professional type people.
If they have a prejudice about fellow serving people who are different from them maybe they are not the material you want in a professional military.
In my book anyone who enlists gets a thumbs up from me.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
a reply to: ipsedixit

We can agree Cialis and Viagra both need to go. And that last line is a non-issue now.

Savings!

And have another Jack Ripper?


I have no idea what that means, and I used to watch Three's Company all the time.

Meanwhile, you don't need an erection to shoot a gun.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: FarEastManor

That just proves this is a deflection...somethings afoot!.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
a reply to: ipsedixit

We can agree Cialis and Viagra both need to go. And that last line is a non-issue now.

Savings!

And have another Jack Ripper?


I have no idea what that means, and I used to watch Three's Company all the time.

Meanwhile, you don't need an erection to shoot a gun.


This guy from Dr. Strangelove.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: FarEastManor

There is something really cheap and half baked about this policy. It's either a desperate attempt to make more jobs for others in the military or Trump just being the pathological bully we've all grown to love and admire. (in certain circles)
edit on 26-7-2017 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: links234

After consultation with my Generals...


My Generals. Mine. MY Generals.

Why does he refer to our Generals as his? The men and women who swore an oath to the Constitution and the United States are not his property or personal military force. He is not CEO of America, he is the President of the United States.

He may be Commander in Chief but that doesn't make the military his. They are our military not his.

Furthermore, on topic; Whoever he consulted with he didn't even tell them that he was going to make this announcement:

Pentagon and Trump don't appear coordinated on military transgender ban

Pentago n 'worried Trump was going to declare war on North Korea' during today's tweets about military



He's their boss so they ARE his and I think he has a little more sway than you do with them.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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