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Schumer: Dems, not Russia, are to blame for loss to Trump

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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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Lately we are watching prominent Democrats changing their stories about who to blame for the historic Hillary Clinton loss.

Now it's U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer from New York.

After casting blame on "Russians" for months, he now kinda says something different.

Looks like Democrats are trying hard to change the perspective.

The 2018 elections will be crucial for the 2020 Presidential election.

Democrats have a lot of work to do, and "work" isn't really in their blood.

Schumer: Dems, not Russia, are to blame for loss to Trump

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) says that Democrats, not Russia, are to blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss to President Trump.

“When you lose to somebody who has 40 percent popularity, you don’t blame other things - [James] Comey, Russia - you blame yourself,” Schumer said in an interview Saturday with The Washington Post.

“So what did we do wrong? People didn’t know what we stood for, just that we were against Trump. And still believe that.”

Last year, much of the Democrats’ strategy hinged on criticism of Trump in hopes that the many controversies swirling around the GOP presidential candidate would damage down-ballot Republicans, a plan which largely failed.
In May, Clinton blamed former FBI Director Comey and Wikileaks for her election loss.





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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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They say a picture is worth a thousand words.



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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:39 AM
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Their problem is that they showed us for 8 years what they believe and now the country is falling apart. Actions speak louder than words.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Their problem is that they showed us for 8 years what they believe and now the country is falling apart. Actions speak louder than words.


The country is not falling apart. That's nonsense.

Anyway, the problem is not that they showed us over the last 8 years what they are about. The problem is that they don't stand for anything substantial at all. They've drove the mantra of being for the "little guy", average Joe working class citizen in to the ground and have shown they are not much different than the Republicans.

Obama, despite all the BS pushed about him in the Right Wing echo chamber, was a moderate president that did not do anything to help push the Democratic platform.

So now the Dems really have no identity that appeals to non-Republicans.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I find it odd they decided to make their platform the one Trump ran on.

“A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future,” 

And I might add better ingredients a better pizza.

I'm a little disappointed in my fellow democrats the best message they could come up with was steal Trumps. I think a fairness and equal treatment message would have been much more effective.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So I wonder what does his cousin Amy Schumer have to say about him admitting Democrats are a failure?


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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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If you work for a living the democrats have nothing to offer you. There whole agenda is babysitting the country's lowlifes. How can a working man want more taxes and bigger government? All they do is make new laws that infringe on our rights telling us it's just for our own good, and of course there favorite rally call 'what about the children!!'



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
Their problem is that they showed us for 8 years what they believe and now the country is falling apart. Actions speak louder than words.


The country is not falling apart. That's nonsense.

Anyway, the problem is not that they showed us over the last 8 years what they are about. The problem is that they don't stand for anything substantial at all. They've drove the mantra of being for the "little guy", average Joe working class citizen in to the ground and have shown they are not much different than the Republicans.

Obama, despite all the BS pushed about him in the Right Wing echo chamber, was a moderate president that did not do anything to help push the Democratic platform.

So now the Dems really have no identity that appeals to non-Republicans.


Respectfully, the non republican stance that is lacking in your post is actually socialism. And Americans and not 100% sold on that idea yet.

Dems keep pushing the same ideas like republicans were for years.

Personally I think that people understand that both parties want full control and they just want to get there differently.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You have two separate issues confused here.
Wow that a surprise.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Memes. The voice of those who have nothing to say.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: GraffikPleasure


Personally I think that people understand that both parties want full control and they just want to get there differently.


Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

State of Kansas discovered this when they tried a low tax agenda. The state legislature on both sides just couldn't stomach the necessary accompanying cuts to government that had to go with it in order to make the budget balance. So the whole thing failed.

And when they do think about cutting things in the budget, it's always the things that will actually hurt people that go first. It's somehow never the cushy bureaucracy jobs on the block.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Where did he do that?
Mirror?


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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen



People didn’t know what we stood for


Yeah. We did. That's why you lost.


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posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Here is the problem, in a nutshell:

The country is not falling apart. That's nonsense.

Apparently not for you. But for many of us, it has already fallen apart. Jobs are scarce as hen's teeth, and when you do find one, it is a dead-end, part-time, minimum-wage gig that barely keeps food on the table. If you get sick, and are not lucky enough to be on Obamacare, a big chunk of that bare living goes to the doctors. If you're lucky enough to get on Obamacare, a big chunk of it goes to the insurance companies. If you decide to eat instead of read your insurance policy, a big chunk of it goes to the government.

You can say it ain't so until you're blue in the face and the cows come home, lie down. die, and rot... it's happening. Some people just don't care that it's happening. And those some people are now losing power.


Anyway, the problem is not that they showed us over the last 8 years what they are about. The problem is that they don't stand for anything substantial at all. They've drove the mantra of being for the "little guy", average Joe working class citizen in to the ground and have shown they are not much different than the Republicans.

They showed us, IMO, that they are worse than the Republicans.

I don't want either party in complete control. The Republicans having this much power scares me, to be honest. But I saw what happened when the Democrats had power, and that absolutely terrifies me now. So given the choice between guaranteed absolute misery and potential pain, I'm looking forward to a little pain. It will seem like a relief after the absolute misery of the last eight years.


Obama, despite all the BS pushed about him in the Right Wing echo chamber, was a moderate president that did not do anything to help push the Democratic platform.

Thanks. I needed a laugh.

TheRedneck



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

At least there is some admission of reality within that group. But 'work'? Oh they work alright. All those old hacks are rich enough to retire comfortably and leave it all to the next generation, but they don't. And that goes for Republicans as well. Old Dems and old Reps seem to be in some kind of death match like that old Star Trek episode with the two guys with oppostied sides of their faces painted black and white. Remember Strom Thurman who had to be wheeled into the chamber and propped up with cushions to keep him from falling over?

The problem is that being a servant of the people was not intended to be a life long job, but rather a short term service to the nation. Washington made that clear by turning down the acclamation for him to run for more. These folks -reps too- need to serve and then go back to the real world. Real liberals would do that. These are not real liberals.


So yeah, Pelosi and Feinstein and Shummer need to quit thinking of themselves as great warriors of liberalism and just move out of the way and take their wealth and chill somewhere else. I know plenty of liberals who would love to see them go.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen


I personally have never said we lost because of Russia, but none of us know YET on exactly what the Russians did that was so "sophisticated" to influence our election. None of you can say (but you do it all the time) that the Russians did not try and influence our election. If Comey had not reopend the email investigation days before the election, I will say I 100% believe trump would have lost, as he did the popular vote by Millions.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Their problem is that they showed us for 8 years what they believe and now the country is falling apart. Actions speak louder than words.


Come on Ket, you have to know that our problems cannot be defined simply by pointing at the last eight years. You must know our problems are more systemic than that. That things like entrenched political power blocks locked in some sick death spiral are part of it. That the Bush years already had us floundering. And like now, they had a period of controlling all the branches themselves. Look at the mess that Bama got handed.

I agree that Obama didn't help the overall situation in any great manner and just his presence in the WH pissed off a lot of people but to focus on that alone as the cause of our plight serves as no help in finding solutions.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I wouldn't worry too much.

The Republicans are really two or three parties at the moment. You have the prog wing who might as well be Democrats. You have the moderates who like big government but simply think they can run it better and you have the conservatives who are really more traditional small government, classical liberal types.

The three groups don't see eye to eye for a lot of reasons, and so long as that continues and they hate the president even if he is wearing their party letter, they aren't going to march in lockstep like Democrats would if they had all this power.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Yes, but a lot of what the Democrats believe added and amplified the issues with the system. Additionally, look at places that have been under mostly Democrat governance for years to decades. They look a lot like what we are seeing the beginnings of on a national level.




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