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Congress goes ahead with sanctions on Russia, bypassing Trump

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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Unlike Russia where the president is a dictator and has all the power, in the US it's the Congress that has the most power. Congress can make laws. Laws are stronger than president's executive orders. The US is founded by English people and uses western culture. Russia is an eastern country that uses Mongolian culture because Russia was ruled by Mongols.

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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I wish people would stop flooding the boards with thread after thread about the same topics.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Mongols....?

Hey congress can do what it has to do. It was never really aligned with the people no matter what letter was stamped next to a name either D or R.

Why start now?

Sanctions arent working. Part of the reason for the initial problem was a lack of communication.

Trump is trying to be realistic and try something else.

Actually being real with them. If we seem shifty they will respond in kind. If we are open and transparent with what we need and expect in situations, we can then begin to meet half way.

Diplomacy is survival.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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but i thought trump was a dictator?


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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I wish people would stop flooding the boards with thread after thread about the same topics.


Hopefully we'll see some changes soon and people willfully posting OP topics already being discussed will start getting warnings. It's becoming spam at this point and we have a half dozen doing it every single day.
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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Unlike Russia where the president is a dictator and has all the power, in the US it's the Congress that has the most power. Congress can make laws. Laws are stronger than president's executive orders. The US is founded by English people and uses western culture. Russia is an eastern country that uses Mongolian culture because Russia was ruled by Mongols.

www.cbc.ca...

Nice effort!

You might want to check up on the separations of powers in the US.

Also, Russia has a rich history of a variety of cultures from europe, aisa, the middle East and even the eskimos.

You might find that reading about their history is really fun. I suggest starting with a wiki page for a good start.

Like, did you know why they are called "Russians?" It is from the word "rus", which means " to row, or rowers". The founders of Kiev were most likely Vikings from the north (rowers), who sailed down the dniper river from the Baltic sea!

Good luck with your own journey of discovery!


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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Did you ever attend a class on American government? Read a book on the subject? If you had you would know that the Congress of the United States cannot make laws without the President. The President may veto any bill created by the Congress. His veto can be overcome by a 2/3 vote to override in the House and in the Senate. This has only happened 111 times in American history so it is pretty unlikely.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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This may hinder and restrict his options but there is still plenty he can do.

For one he can be slow to respond to Russian military advances.

He can trade and / or support vetos at the UN Security Council.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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What does the Opening Post (OP) have to do with the title of this thread?



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I wish people would stop flooding the boards with thread after thread about the same topics.


They have a quota:


www.bbc.com...
"[During one 12-hour shift] I had to write 126 comments under the posts written by people inside the building. And about 25 comments on pages of real people - in order to attract somebody's attention. And I had to write 10 blog posts," a former employee, Anton, told Radio Liberty.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: whywhynot

98 Senators voted for Russia sanctions. Even if Trump vetoes, they have enough votes to override Trump.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: whywhynot

98 Senators voted for Russia sanctions. Even if Trump vetoes, they have enough votes to override Trump.


Two thoughts for you, 1) you need , as I told you, 2/3 in both the House and the Senate 2) an override vote may not be as easy.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I wish people would stop flooding the boards with thread after thread about the same topics.


Dont wish. Use the alert function.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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You an me both mate a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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This is a big thing for Trump. If Putin does have something on Trump: The money. The money laundering. Is Trump being blackmailed?

Worst, Trump is committing TREASON!


I think Trump will sign the bill to placate the GOP.


If he doesn't it will be interesting to see if Russia retaliates and lets out some dark secrets on Trump
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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: whywhynot

Last I checked 0.98 is greater than 2/3. If they voted that way the first time around I don't see why they couldn't overcome a veto.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

These don't exist. Democrats had investigated Trump for years and they found nothing.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Unlike Russia where the president is a dictator and has all the power, in the US it's the Congress that has the most power. Congress can make laws. Laws are stronger than president's executive orders. The US is founded by English people and uses western culture. Russia is an eastern country that uses Mongolian culture because Russia was ruled by Mongols.

www.cbc.ca...


The same English culture that genocided the NA and enslaved Africans.


The Russians have a better record than the English, imo.

Not that this has much to do with the issue. A response to your statement, though, was in order.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Willtell

These don't exist. Democrats had investigated Trump for years and they found nothing.


When did the democrats investigate Trump? Where in the world did you get that from



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: whywhynot

Last I checked 0.98 is greater than 2/3. If they voted that way the first time around I don't see why they couldn't overcome a veto.


You should check better. The original vote on a bill doesn't always predict an override vote.

H.R.10929 from the 95th Congress was passed in the House by a vote of 319-67 and in the Senate by 87-2. After President Carter vetoed it, the House voted on whether to override the veto. The motion to override was defeated 191-206: after the veto, they couldn't even get a simple majority to override the veto of the bill which had been passed by an overwhelming supermajority.



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