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Trump is right. No military hardware for Ukraine.

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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Yesterday, corrupt Ukrainian soldiers who received advanced American supplied RQ-11 Raven recon UAVs supplied by Obama last year sold two of these things to rebels in Donbas. No doubt they will be sent to Russia for reverse engineering. Trump banned supply of advanced military hardware to Ukraine, so no more will fall into the hands of the evil Russians.



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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

As usual, your OP is half assed and misinformed.

Ukraine had the third largest nuclear stockpile following the collapse of the USSR. In exchange for the nukes we said we would defend their sovereignty.

So I suppose if you think America should only hold to treaties, promises and obligation when convenient, then I suppose this is a success.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Tell that to Obama. It was Obama who colluded with Putin to cause Maidan revolution in 2013 giving Russia carte blanche to take back Crimea in 2014 which Russia tried to do for 60 years with no luck since 1954 when Khrushchev took it out of Russia and gave it to Ukraine as a gift.


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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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IMO Obama sent these hardware to Ukraine with the intention of transferring them to Russia for study. Earlier, rebels got their hands on a counter mortar radar supplied to Ukraine by Obama.


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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Lol. Reverse engineering, like an alien object. That's stupid. If we have one they do also. He really is a Russian man.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Iran reverse engineered TOW missiles sold to Iran. Russia can reverse engineer, however they already have things on par with the US so they don't need to.

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: allsee4eye

As usual, your OP is half assed and misinformed.

Ukraine had the third largest nuclear stockpile following the collapse of the USSR. In exchange for the nukes we said we would defend their sovereignty.

So I suppose if you think America should only hold to treaties, promises and obligation when convenient, then I suppose this is a success.


I would say the treaty should've been nullified following the 2014 coup.

Regardless the Poroshenko regime is undeserving of help from anyone. It'll fall soon, and good riddance to it.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Poroshenko has approval below 20 percent. No Ukrainian president has ever been re elected.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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Stupid Ukrainians. You have to grease the skids with Trumpy. Just give his brat a few million for whatever cause she has made then Trump will sell you what you want. Worked for the Saudis.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Ukraine is a poor country. It's corrupt. Anything the US supplies to Ukraine falls into the hands of Russians. That's why Trump banned supply of military hardware to Ukraine.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Stupid Ukrainians. You have to grease the skids with Trumpy. Just give his brat a few million for whatever cause she has made then Trump will sell you what you want. Worked for the Saudis.


Yes, he broke the long-standing tradition of the US not being in bed with the Saudis. Next he'll be bowing to their king.



posted on Jul, 23 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Stupid Ukrainians. You have to grease the skids

Worked great when Clinton was there. Not so sure Trump is going to play the game.



posted on Jul, 24 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Tell that to Obama. It was Obama who colluded with Putin to cause Maidan revolution in 2013 giving Russia carte blanche to take back Crimea in 2014 which Russia tried to do for 60 years with no luck since 1954 when Khrushchev took it out of Russia and gave it to Ukraine as a gift.


I think you are being revisionist.

The Euromaidan protests started by a reversion of policy by the decision to cancel closer ties with Europe, in preference to Russia, alongside other grievances such as the level of corruption with President Yanukovych being part of the corruption problem. The eventual resignation of the Ukrainian government confirmed Ukraine would seek to forge closer ties with Europe. This was the catalyst for Russia's land grab in Crimea and the subsequent belligerent meddling in Eastern Ukraine.



posted on Jul, 24 2017 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

Ukraine will never join NATO or the EU. Not because they don't want to, but because they are not allowed. They are eastern Slavs like Belarussians and Russians. No one can trust them to be hostile to Belarus and Russia. Yanukovych wasn't harmed, suggesting this coup was planned by Putin and possibly Obama in order to give Russia carte blanch to take back Crimea.



posted on Jul, 24 2017 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

You really think Ukraine has no motivation to be hostile to Russia? The Holodomor is still remembered there even if it isn't in the rest of the world.



posted on Jul, 24 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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The EU is preparing some kind of offensive against Ukraine for the coming few days/weeks since Germany's trick against Turkey has collapsed. Now all they have left is provocations involving Ukraine, Syria or provocations in the US.



posted on Jul, 25 2017 @ 06:35 AM
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Any western delivery of weapons to Ukraine or attempts at re-igniting battles in the east will backfire on the west. Things might not be what they look like, just as they weren't in 2014!



posted on Jul, 25 2017 @ 06:42 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

You mean Stalin? Stalin is a Georgian. His real name was Dzhugashvili. If Ukrainians want to hate, they ought to hate Georgians, not Russians.

Ukrainians and Russians are eastern Slavs along with Belarussians. Georgians are not even Indo Europeans.
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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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The EU is most likely to try some aggressive manouvers against Ukraine the coming weekend. They will backfire on the EU.



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