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trump decares complete power to PARDON!!!!!

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: RazorV66

If liberalism is a mental disease them conservativism is full blown psychosis




posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

Are you effing kidding me?!?!

The other thread on this 'story' was already skewered for pages for being crafted as fake news, you know, the thread you were in, in the Mud Pit just the same:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And so now you go and find another spin article talking jawing the same kind of jab and start another Mud Pit thread about the same exact thing taking the fake news style thread titlization to the next level.

You waste my time opening the article thinking something new had happened. I scan the damn thing and what's this, a whole "tirade" about pardons he's supposedly been on all day...

twitter.com...

I check the goddamn thing and what, the same single tweet the other OP mentioned relating to pardons, taken waaay beyond context then and now taken waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond context above that by YOU.

And you couldn't even at least make a OP content worthy of even being a thread?

This is just LAZY.

Wasting peoples time this this lazy BS just in attempts of hopes that people will just see the headlines and internalize it as truth s for the next forever you can constantly jaw jab in threads about how Trump is the pardon chief as you go about your little smear rants around this site.

You dont deliberately waste peoples efffing time dude. Nothing more precious than time.
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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

I refer to the talks of her pardoning herself if she had become president.

A president pardoning themselves reeks, I don't care who it is.


Again...the Leftists have been trying to jam this bullsh*t down Trump's throat for a long time now.
He has to protect himself and his team from false accusations, he has the power to do so and quite frankly, should do it to put this sh*t to rest for good and get on with working on this country's problems.
Cry about it all you want, it is all within the scope of his Presidential powers.
If the situation was reversed and Hillary was in there and pardoned herself....oh well you gotta live with it.


A president may pardon himself for Federal crimes if he should be cheeky enough, there's nothing to stop him being impeached though.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: kurthall



Whether he can pardon himself is the biggest concern, since that precedent has never been attempted or set.


I don't think he will do it. That would be paramount to admitting guilt. Trump wants and needs love so badly he's just going to bail and claim "health issues"....believe me.


Yeah. That sounds right. Dementia and advanced senility. Poor tired, confused, unloved old man....


Don't wish for it too hard my friend, then you and the Leftists get Pence as President.
Then round 2 of the Leftist tantrums start.


For me Pence would be a change in the right direction. I am a conservative. Did not vote for Hillary or the dems, and certainly not Trump, whatever the hell he claims to be (anti-christ).


Anti-Christ?
For God sake...ok so you are a delusional Conservative.


Hyperbole. My real belief is that Trump is the American version of Mussolini, a cheap, two-bit fascist, complete with his (cowardly) gang of keyboard brown shirts.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

There's no evidence, so I doubt there are crimes seeing as this has been on going.

But if I didn't commit a crime I sure as hell wouldn't pardon myself.


You are right....no evidence at all and there never will be any evidence.
But he can issue a blanket pardon to anyone he chooses without that person being charged with a crime.
If that is how he has to protect the people in his administration from the continuous false accusations thrown out every day by these nuts, so be it.
Enough is enough already.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: RazorV66

But what if Trump and/or company is actually guilty?



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

I refer to the talks of her pardoning herself if she had become president.

A president pardoning themselves reeks, I don't care who it is.


Again...the Leftists have been trying to jam this bullsh*t down Trump's throat for a long time now.
He has to protect himself and his team from false accusations, he has the power to do so and quite frankly, should do it to put this sh*t to rest for good and get on with working on this country's problems.
Cry about it all you want, it is all within the scope of his Presidential powers.
If the situation was reversed and Hillary was in there and pardoned herself....oh well you gotta live with it.


A president may pardon himself for Federal crimes if he should be cheeky enough, there's nothing to stop him being impeached though.


Sure he can. Judges have ruled on their own cases for hundreds of years under our constitutional sysytem.

Oh wait. Not!



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

There's no evidence, so I doubt there are crimes seeing as this has been on going.

But if I didn't commit a crime I sure as hell wouldn't pardon myself.


You are right....no evidence at all and there never will be any evidence.
But he can issue a blanket pardon to anyone he chooses without that person being charged with a crime.
If that is how he has to protect the people in his administration from the continuous false accusations thrown out every day by these nuts, so be it.
Enough is enough already.


No, it will be enough when the investigations to insure that our constitution is not compromised are complete.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: kurthall



Whether he can pardon himself is the biggest concern, since that precedent has never been attempted or set.


I don't think he will do it. That would be paramount to admitting guilt. Trump wants and needs love so badly he's just going to bail and claim "health issues"....believe me.


Yeah. That sounds right. Dementia and advanced senility. Poor tired, confused, unloved old man....


Don't wish for it too hard my friend, then you and the Leftists get Pence as President.
Then round 2 of the Leftist tantrums start.


For me Pence would be a change in the right direction. I am a conservative. Did not vote for Hillary or the dems, and certainly not Trump, whatever the hell he claims to be (anti-christ).


Anti-Christ?
For God sake...ok so you are a delusional Conservative.


Hyperbole. My real belief is that Trump is the American version of Mussolini, a cheap, two-bit fascist, complete with his (cowardly) gang of keyboard brown shirts.


Fascist? Get a grip.
Lol....have you seen the constant, 24/7 hyperbole of the Commie Leftist keyboard gang? It never ends.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RazorV66

But what if Trump and/or company is actually guilty?


Guilt of what?



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

There's no evidence, so I doubt there are crimes seeing as this has been on going.

But if I didn't commit a crime I sure as hell wouldn't pardon myself.


You are right....no evidence at all and there never will be any evidence.
But he can issue a blanket pardon to anyone he chooses without that person being charged with a crime.
If that is how he has to protect the people in his administration from the continuous false accusations thrown out every day by these nuts, so be it.
Enough is enough already.


No, it will be enough when the investigations to insure that our constitution is not compromised are complete.



That's really rich.
Where were you for the last 8 years when Obammy compromised our Constitution on a daily basis?
Or Bush before him for that matter.
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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RazorV66

But what if Trump and/or company is actually guilty?


Guilt of what?


You see?

I don't know.

The leftists have been accusing Trump of everything so it's hard to even posit the idea of guilt.

Let's just say for an exercise that the Trump & Team was found guilty of things that Hillary had done.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: kurthall



Whether he can pardon himself is the biggest concern, since that precedent has never been attempted or set.


I don't think he will do it. That would be paramount to admitting guilt. Trump wants and needs love so badly he's just going to bail and claim "health issues"....believe me.


Yeah. That sounds right. Dementia and advanced senility. Poor tired, confused, unloved old man....


Don't wish for it too hard my friend, then you and the Leftists get Pence as President.
Then round 2 of the Leftist tantrums start.


For me Pence would be a change in the right direction. I am a conservative. Did not vote for Hillary or the dems, and certainly not Trump, whatever the hell he claims to be (anti-christ).


Anti-Christ?
For God sake...ok so you are a delusional Conservative.


Hyperbole. My real belief is that Trump is the American version of Mussolini, a cheap, two-bit fascist, complete with his (cowardly) gang of keyboard brown shirts.


Fascist? Get a grip.
Lol....have you seen the constant, 24/7 hyperbole of the Commie Leftist keyboard gang? It never ends.


Most of the left in this country are not commies, the lean socialist, as in they like social security. And yes, they are a source of good-natures humor to me, and sometimes push it too far. But this go-round they are right. Even a blind out find a nut, every now and then. Clock is right twice a day, and all that. Most libs want what ever one else wants, they just can be very silly in trying to get that at times.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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BREAKING NEWS : Trump declares his powers under the Constitution!!

What a meanie.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

He does have the power to pardon anyone he chooses, but how he uses that power could lead to political suicide.

If he pardons anyone within his family, or himself, that would be the epitome of corrupted power. He could get away with pardoning someone such as Flynn, but not himself or family.

If he pardoned himself, that would be unprecedented and challenged in the courts.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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All that is left is for him to start ww3.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: kurthall




trump says he can pardon ANYONE,



Newsflash, presidents can pardon just about anyone they chose to.

Why capitalize the word anyone but not a persons name is that suppose to be a dig on him or your education?





Yeah well according to a bunch of you it was all fake news, just like Russia was fake news. Its not. The reason I said ANYONE is because he asked if he could pardon himself. trump thinks he is above the law. Anyone who cant see that by now doesn't want to admit to themselves he and his family are crooked as hell. You can point fingers at the Clintons and whoever you want, but they are not the POTUS, and not the topic. People only bring them up to deflect, just like trump did today in his twitter rant, which he once again brought up Hillary.

He tweets things to try and make you not focus on the REAL issues. Let me just post FOX news Shepard Smith going off about trump and his LIES! Don't watch it though, keep your blinders on and move along like the man is actually a decent POTUS, which he is not. The less than 40% who still support him better not watch FAKE FOX NEWS! trump is a nut job!!!

www.learnprogress.org...


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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TacSite18

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

There's no evidence, so I doubt there are crimes seeing as this has been on going.

But if I didn't commit a crime I sure as hell wouldn't pardon myself.


You are right....no evidence at all and there never will be any evidence.
But he can issue a blanket pardon to anyone he chooses without that person being charged with a crime.
If that is how he has to protect the people in his administration from the continuous false accusations thrown out every day by these nuts, so be it.
Enough is enough already.


No, it will be enough when the investigations to insure that our constitution is not compromised are complete.



That's really rich.
Where were you for the last 8 years when Obammy compromised our Constitution on a daily basis?
Or Bush before him for that matter.


Working to make this country a better place, and busting my ass as a federal procurement officer who was personally recognized for savings and cost avoidance measures in excess of $200,000,000 in taxpayer dollars. What have you been up to, SNIP
edit on 7/22/2017 by Blaine91555 because: snipped T&C violation



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

This is a good article on Business Insider about it, too.


The pardoning power, as Founding Father Alexander Hamilton explained, is very broad, applying even to cases of treason against the United States. As Hamilton put it, “the benign prerogative of pardoning should be as little as possible fettered or embarrassed.”

Throughout our history, courts have taken a similarly expansive view. In 1977, Florida’s State Supreme Court said that “An executive may grant a pardon for good reasons or bad, or for any reason at all, and his act is final and irrevocable.”

In 1837, the United States Supreme Court held that the president’s pardon power “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.”



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: kurthall

He does have the power to pardon anyone he chooses, but how he uses that power could lead to political suicide.

If he pardons anyone within his family, or himself, that would be the epitome of corrupted power. He could get away with pardoning someone such as Flynn, but not himself or family.

If he pardoned himself, that would be unprecedented and challenged in the courts.


Political earthquake - I agree.
However, the witch hunt has been so severe that I am beginning to wonder if even that would lead to his impeachment or break in his support.

If he issued preemptive pardons to everyone involved in his campaign right now and said he was doing it because he was disgusted at the political witch hunt and is ending it, I reckon he might survive it. Would 19 Republican Senators turn on him? I am not so sure.
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