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Dems as broke as their moral character

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posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: introvert
Merely a comparison. As most likely the True Blue Dems are abandoning the radical Progressives like Pelosi , Warren , Waters , etc...
And taking their money with them
Lots of old money...

The younger college aged Liberals probably dont have the ready cash to invest in the DNC like the older Democrats.



What does that have to do with moral character and what method did you use to measure the collective moral character of the Dems?




posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: introvert



Progressives like Pelosi , Warren , Waters , etc...

That should have been "Nuff Said"
You aint from around here , er ya ?



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: introvert



Progressives like Pelosi , Warren , Waters , etc...

That should have been "Nuff Said"


Those few people you listed are not indicative of the collective moral character of a political party.



You aint from around here , er ya ?



Yes, I am from around here. That is how I knew you were talking out of your ass and could not justify such a stupid comment.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 08:35 AM
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Those few people you listed are not indicative of the collective moral character of a political party.


How many names are enough for you?

Those are the head of the party, that's it man. Adding the Clintons or Podesta to the list would make you happy?



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: introvert



Those few people you listed are not indicative of the collective moral character of a political party.


How many names are enough for you?

Those are the head of the party, that's it man. Adding the Clintons or Podesta to the list would make you happy?


It doesn't matter how many names you list. It would not be indicative of an entire party of many individuals having a broken moral character.

It would be similar to saying that the Republicans are all a bunch of perverts because Trump likes to grab female's lady parts and some other party leaders had extramarital affairs.

Illogical to say the least.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Seems the time is ripe for a new party.
The sooner the far right and the far left are shunted into the background the better.


The problem with that statement is that these days, anyone to the right of Bernie is "far right." It's been slung around so many times that I'm not even sure what that means anymore. And the left keeps pushing the envelope of what's considered far left.

They'll be in the streets openly rebelling as armed partisans and telling us those aren't really far left radicals ... the radicals are the ones who want to simply commit genocide on anyone who doesn't agree.

Right now, on the sexual front anything to the left of transgender anything is radical, so nothing transgender can be, up to and including starting your child on a transition as young as 2, but simply stating you think that may be radical brands you "far right extremist" and around and around and around we go.

As far as what's really left or right, it's all about the Overton Window and what people are being groomed to accept as left or right in media dialogue. Usually, the left raises a fuss and the right accedes without much comment, but this time people are openly fighting back, and love him or hate him, Trump is a big part of that by simply not cowing to the peer pressure to shut up or be ridiculed and called nasty names.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

No, noting as broke as ther moral character, or total lack thereof. But you could say the same about the Republicans. A pox on both their houses.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

All very true, but its also true that in the end, the leftsts always win because the have the education system and the MSM. Trum will be the last Repuke president.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Trueman

what is sad, is that many people around here still believe their side cares about the people.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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This should be plastered all over the news. The Democrats are morally and financial bankrupt. All the money from donors went to the Clinton campaign and Clinton Foundation instead of the DNC.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

This is not about parties any longer

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It is at it's core a corrupt system in which the average American is expendable and irrelevant. 20 years of data has shown that what citizens want or think means nothing to Congress. Zilch, nada, zip.

If you don't bring or represent a LOT of campaign cash the doors are closed. As long as we continue to let big money brain wash us into voting for their puppets we remain an oligarchy not a democracy (republic).

Both parties swim in the same sewer as a means to survive. The problem is the sewer not the parties.

The only thing that can save the US from becoming a total, irreversible fiefdom for the wealthy few is to somehow take private funded campaigns out of the picture legally. It is by promises of support and contributions that special interest can legally bribe Congress to do what they wish regardless of what we want or desire as citizens.

A new party will not change this because they must dive into the exact same swamp to bob for dollars to get elected.

I'm a liberal and a democrat but that does not mean I'm necessarily happy with that party. It just happens to represent most liberals at this time. At least they have made some attempts to fix campaign finance laws. The GOP loves the swamp as it is so getting reforms right now would be impossible.

I support Democrats not because I think any politician is inherently better than any other, but because their base philosophy is geared more toward people than corporations. They would be the only party willing to reform campaign finance.

To be honest John McCain (R) did join with Russ Feingold (D) to pass the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms, partially struck down by Citizens United. With the possible exception of McCain, I see no GOP in congress with the inclination or balls to try to fix what works for them. They simply don't care what we think.

We can start the processes of change by taking the incentive to spend away from the top money givers. They know that the current system is a financial investment. About $4 billion spent has earned them several trillion of OUR dollars in financial reward. Buying your own Senator is a good investment as long as they remain in office.

The solution we have. STOP RE ELECTING the same people into power. Do you really think they will change when we put them back? No! They Won't!

Eventually representatives in Congress will start to fear the voter instead of the special interest. Those special interests investments will become less and less productive.

We can to the first without any act of congress. It's the one last tool we still have until they succeed in taking the vote away with dirty tricks, voter purges, gerrymandering and all the other tricks to disinfranchise the rest of us from our own government.

We are running out of time! There is a mid term coming up in 2018 and we MUST register. We MUST vote. We must replace Congress to send a message that it is the citizens they need to listen to, not the wealthy corporation that own the current batch in DC.

expendableamericans.com...



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Gothmog




Apparently the Republicans are rollin in the dough...new found donors ?


Or very old bucks finding their way back.



I think you guys need a few new parties to work with, but how about direct democracy instead? That's probably our only chance to stop this global corporate sellout, if we can.


Constitutional Republic is still much better, but we definitely need to get rid of the two-party system.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: JoeTheVoter
a reply to: Gothmog

This is not about parties any longer

.

It is at it's core a corrupt system in which the average American is expendable and irrelevant. 20 years of data has shown that what citizens want or think means nothing to Congress. Zilch, nada, zip.

If you don't bring or represent a LOT of campaign cash the doors are closed. As long as we continue to let big money brain wash us into voting for their puppets we remain an oligarchy not a democracy (republic).

Both parties swim in the same sewer as a means to survive. The problem is the sewer not the parties.

The only thing that can save the US from becoming a total, irreversible fiefdom for the wealthy few is to somehow take private funded campaigns out of the picture legally. It is by promises of support and contributions that special interest can legally bribe Congress to do what they wish regardless of what we want or desire as citizens.

A new party will not change this because they must dive into the exact same swamp to bob for dollars to get elected.

I'm a liberal and a democrat but that does not mean I'm necessarily happy with that party. It just happens to represent most liberals at this time. At least they have made some attempts to fix campaign finance laws. The GOP loves the swamp as it is so getting reforms right now would be impossible.

I support Democrats not because I think any politician is inherently better than any other, but because their base philosophy is geared more toward people than corporations. They would be the only party willing to reform campaign finance.

To be honest John McCain (R) did join with Russ Feingold (D) to pass the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms, partially struck down by Citizens United. With the possible exception of McCain, I see no GOP in congress with the inclination or balls to try to fix what works for them. They simply don't care what we think.

We can start the processes of change by taking the incentive to spend away from the top money givers. They know that the current system is a financial investment. About $4 billion spent has earned them several trillion of OUR dollars in financial reward. Buying your own Senator is a good investment as long as they remain in office.

The solution we have. STOP RE ELECTING the same people into power. Do you really think they will change when we put them back? No! They Won't!

Eventually representatives in Congress will start to fear the voter instead of the special interest. Those special interests investments will become less and less productive.

We can to the first without any act of congress. It's the one last tool we still have until they succeed in taking the vote away with dirty tricks, voter purges, gerrymandering and all the other tricks to disinfranchise the rest of us from our own government.

We are running out of time! There is a mid term coming up in 2018 and we MUST register. We MUST vote. We must replace Congress to send a message that it is the citizens they need to listen to, not the wealthy corporation that own the current batch in DC.

expendableamericans.com...



Good luck doing that when your party rigs primaries..

I agree, stop voting for any party. Let's have a grass roots move and flood the elections with independents with one goal, to vote how their constituents would like.

Do we really need congress any more? How about we replace with an electronic voting system.
edit on 22-7-2017 by Throes because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: introvert



It doesn't matter how many names you list.


I knew it. A hard way lesson started last November. School will be open for next 8 years.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: ketsuko

All very true, but its also true that in the end, the leftsts always win because the have the education system and the MSM. Trum will be the last Repuke president.


And you think that makes the leftists right in a moral sense?

You must or else you wouldn't have typed out Repuke like that. It implies you think there is no other valid position but the leftist one.



posted on Jul, 22 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu




Constitutional Republic is still much better


...said the oligarchs who overtook your republic years ago.

Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

#NoYesD'oh!



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