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originally posted by: Metallicus
Lots of people seem to be getting public infrastructure such as police, fire and the building of roads confused with Socialism.
They aren't the same as defrauding the public to create social welfare programs. There is a giant difference between bloated Federal wealth redistribution schemes and building local infrastructure.
If D.C. fell into the Atlantic we would all be better off.
Not sure. I can tell you this, the words socialism and fascism are often misused, especially when people try to make them equatable. The only sense the two terms are equatable Is that they are equally bad for those who have to live under their influence.
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Metallicus
I can't tell if Hitler's name, socialism or fascism is misused more in threads and posts.
originally posted by: lordcomac
a reply to: nwtrucker
There's also a fairly significant portion of middle class tax payers who have never once had a good interaction with a public servant. Police are constantly overstepping their roles. I've never once had a police interaction I've wanted- and I've had many where they were only there to win my day. Several where they were there to try and ruin my day, but couldn't because I was prepared to prove that I was in the right- guilty until proven innocent comes to mind.
Health Care is corrupt to the point that I'd rather suffer an easily cured infection for six months until I can sort it out myself than go to the doctor and see a never ending chain of over paid half wits who aren't interested in helping so much as offering a controlled overpriced medication that had more side effects than useful effects... Because it means they can schedule a follow-up appointment and get paid again.
Fire fighters? They'll do more damage than good in a private residence. A small fire might destroy a room, a fire department will destroy a building to fight it. I've seen it first hand.
There's very little public infrastructure I believe in. City folk depend on it for water, sidewalks, and safety- but many of us with property would rather go without most of their help.
I'd vote for the leave me the hell alone party... But they don't exist. Instead I'm forced to keep retreating until the local government simply doesn't have the resources to properly harass me... But they do keep raising the taxes and increasing their harassment efficiency yearly, so I guess I just have to accept those bastards stealing from me to give to themselves under the guise of helping the poor.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: nwtrucker
No what has happened is the conservative talking heads have sold just one more piece of random BS..
Instead of socialism meaning this..
"political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
To conservative pundits socialism means:
Taking up all the money and buisness and redistributing it to the worst common denominator..
When every society decides what works best for profit, and what doesn't.