I left Freemasonry in 2016, and I am happy to discuss the subject.

a reply to: KSigMason

Why do you think Freemasons are selling blood and body parts?

All Pennsylvania Masons are eligible for membership in the Masonic Blood and Organ Donor Program. A donation of one unit of blood provides coverage for the immediate family. Please donate as often as you can

Ignorance is the root and stem of all evil. ~ Plato

Love it!

a reply to: CanadianMason

Here, chew on this for awhile. While you cool your jets...

In 1789 Alexander Hamilton became the first Treasury Secretary of the United States. Hamilton was one of many Founding Fathers who were Freemasons. He had close relations with the Rothschild family which owns the Bank of England and leads the European Freemason movement.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
So you're against programs like this?

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
There's no evidence that Hamilton was a Freemason.

Your link can't even get the basics about Freemasonry right and how it is structured.

a reply to: KSigMason

There's no evidence that Hamilton was a Freemason.

Alexander Hamilton A Famous Freemason

It has already been observed that, at the time the Articles of Confederation were in process of formation, leaders in the army, government, and Masonry were of the opinion that a stronger central government was necessary . In 1780, Washington, Hamilton, and Madison advised the strengthening of the Confederation.(51) A specialized study of the background of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 reveals that the Society of Cincinnati, the officers of the Revolutionary Army, and the Masons began the agitation for the writing of the Constitution of the United States. The records show that the most influential officers of the Revolutionary Army and members of the Society of Cincinnati were active Masons. Their experiences in Masonry had shown them the value of unity while experiences during the Revolution had demonstrated the limitations resulting from lack of unity and singleness of command.

Although American elites initially joined the Freemasons with the intention of mimicking English genteel behavior, the organization ultimately contributed to the development of the American Revolution. During the revolutionary era, masons of note included George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Adams, Richard Henry Lee, and John Hancock. These men and other leading revolutionaries used masonic lodges as gathering places to discuss the relevant issues of the day, network with likeminded individuals, and plan resistance against unpopular British policies.2

Do you require more?

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

lol, ok...again, sorry for going off like I did, I'm Irish Canadian. I will read it and get back to you with my reaction - sorry, response....

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Critique of this article: humansarefree.com...

First off, it is not a peer reviewed article, and so I dismiss it immediately. However, because I shall be gracious to you, I offer some comments, something for you to chew on in return.

(I am in the middle of reorganizing every single room in my house; and, yes, I am doing this to avoid that, as though I don't have anything better to do with my time. I do.)

Who is its author?

His name is Dean Henderson. He wrote a number of articles for 'Global Research', archived here: www.globalresearch.ca...

Here is what 'Media Bias/Fact Check - The Most Comprehensive Media Bias Resource' on the internet says about 'Global Research':

Publishes many unsubstantiated conspiracies. While some of Global Research’s articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist.

mediabiasfactcheck.com...

'Global Research' is classified as "CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE". To be fair, It is rated at a moderate level of conspiracy and a mild level of pseudo-science.

The 'Conspiracy-Pseudoscience' category is described as,

Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources.

If you care to learn about the methodology used by 'Media Bias/Fact Check', you can read about that here: mediabiasfactcheck.com...

In particular, this:

The Conspiracy/Pseudoscience designation is reserved for sources that publish unverifiable information that relates to known conspiracies such as the New World Order, Illuminati, False Flags, Aliens, etc. Pseudoscience is determined by publishing unverified health and scientific claims. In order to be classified in this group the central theme of the source must revolve around conspiracies or pseudoscience.

Furthermore, the author of the article in question, Dean Henderson, has a blog called hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com

Here is his 'About' page: hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com...

Worthy of note: One of his five books is described this way:

Big Oil and Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families and Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics and Terror Network is a global cult classic among conspiracy researchers.

Dean is a conspiracy theorist through and through. He feeds on conspiracy, as you can see in his bio.

Therefore, and approach with extreme caution!

As for the article in question, the first four sources Dean provides are pulled from

[1] The Temple and the Lodge. Michael Baigent & Richard Leigh. Arcade Publishing. New York. 1989. p.259 [2] Ibid. p.219 [3] Ibid. p.253 [4] Ibid. p.233

Here is how one Brother reviews that book, a person whom I have always trusted for providing sober and factual information but, you can judge his website for yourself: www.masonicinfo.com...

Dean's fifth source is pulled from a book written by David Icke:

[5] The Robot’s Rebellion: The Story of the Spiritual Renaissance. David Icke. Gateway Books. Bath, UK. 1994. p.156

I am fairly certain you have heard of him. 'Lizzard People'.

Puh-leez!

His ninth source is pulled from something Jim Marrs wrote:

[9] Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History that Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons and the Great Pyramids. Jim Marrs. HarperCollins Publishers. New York. 2000. p.68

Who is Jim Marrs and is he credible?

I don't think he is but, hey, judge for yourself: duckduckgo.com...

Anyway, I return to the point with which I began this post: Dean's article is specious and based on dubious sources. It would never pass the first round of reviews by any scholars anywhere. It would be 'File 13'ed immediately and without hesitation and without a second thought.

I really need to get something done around my house......

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
What evidence does the book provide?

No Masonic scholar has found evidence that he is a Mason.

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
What evidence does the book provide?

No Masonic scholar has found evidence that he is a Mason.

Again, a blanket statement that can not be true. Again, you can not know the mind of every single Mason that is a researcher. Masons, who hide their quest for the truth, even from other Masons! Your "Organization" may control certain facets of a "Mans" life, but can never control his spirit!

Let me rephrase your statement: "No masonic Scholar wishes to discover the truth of Alexander Hamilton's Masonic Oath, because it would bring discredit upon Freemasonry"

Though, I believe their was at least one, who did. George W (George Washington) 18 Baird, the author of the book I offered to you in the last post. He had quite a bit to say about who was, and who wasn't, a Free Mason.

"George W. Baird"

The only real question is as to which George W. Baird, was the true author. General George W. Baird, or Admiral George W. Baird.. My guess would be General.

George William Baird (December 13, 1839 – November 26, 1906) was a US Army officer who received the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Indian Wars. [1]

But, on the other hand Admiral Baird seems to have the most "Masonic" information at hand.

In Masonry Brother Baird has long been unusually active. He comes of a family of Masons, his father, grandfather, and three uncles on that side being members of the Craft, while on his mother's side tradition has it that every man for eleven generations back was entitled to wear the lambskin apron.

Though I must admit, the "Admiral" has a unusually large data base of Masons, in his own family. Therefore, far more personal knowledge of the subject.

Correct me if I'm wrong...

In as far as Alexander Hamilton being a "Bad Egg", there can be little doubt.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Well, being Secretary for the Idaho Lodge of Research, member of the Grand College of Rites, member of the Masonic Society, and several other research Masonic bodies. I have access to a greater amount of literature and a greater amount of Masonic scholars.

William Denslow who wrote 10,000 Famous Freemasons states:

His Masonic membership has never been determined, although the majority of authorities believe he was never a Freemason. The latest work on this is by James R. Case in 1955, in which he comes to the conclusion that Hamilton was never a member of the Craft. Those who state that he was a Freemason base their claims principally on the fact that he was recorded among the visitors of American Union Lodge (military) at Morristown, N.J., on Dec. 27, 1779, at which time Washington is supposed to have raised General Lafayette, q.v. It is stated that it must have been the Alexander Hamilton because he was the only one of that name then holding a commission in the Army under Washington. It is also claimed in the painting The Petition, which shows the presentation of a petition to Washington to become general grand master of the United States, that Lieut. Col. Alexander Hamilton of New York is standing next to Washington. His youngest son, Philip, q.v., was a Mason and past master of his lodge.

SOURCE

All beliefs of Hamilton being a Mason are based on assumption, not any records or documents.

Freemasonry is not about "hiding their quest for the truth" nor do we hide things from other Masons. Freemasonry is not about controlling anything of a Mason's life. It's about imparting lessons and teaching him so he can better himself and apply those lessons in his daily life. It cannot and does not dictate our actions.

If there was evidence that Hamilton was a Mason it would not bring discredit upon us. It is your opinion that he was a "bad egg."