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President Trump and Republicans are Now in Charge of ObamaCare....THEY OWN IT.

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: seasonal

So then you agree with Trump to let it fail? I may be mistaken in my understanding of your post. It would be just to see Obamacare fail on it's own. It was pushed down the throat of America and now everyone wants to blame Trump for it. lol.


It wasnt pushed down the throat of Americans. It took 10 months of political negotiations and discourse with the GOP. Obama lobbied for it around the country and even did an open forum with the GOP to answer questions about the ACA. It has worked on by the left, the right, and people all across the medical fields. When it came time to vote the GOP said # YOU on the bill they helped craft. Now 7 years latter they will not even work to fix the bill they help create and want to watch it burn so that they can just get rid of it with nothing and try to score political points back home for making the stupid ass repeal and replace promises.




posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: norhoc

People will die. The captain of the ship thats sinking is now trump. Sad but true.


Not surprising because he is trying to scuttle the ship instead of patch the leaks.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: olaru12


The insurance companies are going to step in soon and save us.lol

The lobbyist are on the march with boatloads of cash.

The corporate oligarchy isn't going anywhere. Deal with it!




We agree on something. I guess that's a start?


We're just different kinds of Patriots. Basically we want the same thing but see different paths to the goal.

Lol, I like that.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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....and NO, this mess belongs to the Demos. Because of their obstruction, the GOP has had to do it themselves.

These political deadlocks are becoming tiresome. Something will give way soon.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: norhoc

People will die. The captain of the ship thats sinking is now trump. Sad but true.


Not surprising because he is trying to scuttle the ship instead of patch the leaks.


He is helping it sink but his rollbacks are good ones.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

And the GOP amended the ACA over 150 times.

Why are they BITCHING so much? Their hands are ALL OVER the ACA.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Pyle




It wasnt pushed down the throat of Americans. It took 10 months of political negotiations and discourse with the GOP. Obama lobbied for it around the country and even did an open forum with the GOP to answer questions about the ACA. It has worked on by the left, the right, and people all across the medical fields. When it came time to vote the GOP said # YOU on the bill they helped craft. Now 7 years latter they will not even work to fix the bill they help create and want to watch it burn so that they can just get rid of it with nothing and try to score political points back home for making the stupid ass repeal and replace promises.


Lol. Sure. Keep telling yourself that. Do you not remember what Pelosi said? How can you think that they negotiated and debated it when they didn't even know what was in it? Remember you can keep your doctor? The President didn't even know what was in it. The established GOP is part of the Problem. But it was the Dems that pushed it through the house and senate. Trump is free and clear of Obamacare. Nice try though. Good luck next time.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: norhoc

People will die. The captain of the ship thats sinking is now trump. Sad but true.


That actually says a lot about how Obamacare was made. It was done, and then forced upon the country with a "Buy it or else" option. And they knew in advance that if it was revoked down the road, that it would make anyone doing the revoking look bad, and that it would also hold the system hostage to help force it into not being discarded which was a hedge against it being later dismantled.

This means Obama and all who voted for it, did so knowing it would cause great damage to America in so many ways. That is what people should be thinking about.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

Try LISTENING to her entire speech.

The ACA was available for public review at the time her words were taken out of context.

Deny partisan ignorance bro.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

*Amended.

CREATED and owned by Demos HENCH, ObummerCare

Come on son, get with the program, you're losing your liberal edge



edit on 18-7-2017 by Arnie123 because: Heh



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

If the ACA was not put into effect, we would still be up chip crick with out a paddle.


Our system is destined to inflate, bubble and pop.

The US system of capitalism and affordable care cannot exist in the same market.

Crony capitalism caused the ACA, the ACA accelerated the rot. And we are leaderless to change it.
edit on 18-7-2017 by seasonal because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland




Try LISTENING to her entire speech. The ACA was available for public review at the time her words were taken out of context. Deny partisan ignorance bro.


Okay. To deny partisan what about Obama's remark? Was it just a lie, or did he just not know?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: DanteGaland

*Amended.

CREATED and owned by Demos HENCH, ObummerCare

Come on son, get with the program, you're losing your liberal edge




I don't tend to get involved in political debates because, well, it's pointless on many levels. Somehow someone has to be to blame for the current state of affairs. Dems? Repubs? Who gives a rats a$$.

Democrats passed the ACA which has meant their slow demise over the last 8 years. Repubs said "We've got something better!!" with their steady drumbeat and the American people have finally called them on their bluff.

Well they don't have a plan. Whether it's 20 million fewer with health insurance or 32 million fewer, it doesn't matter. The Repubs didn't have a plan and don't give a (crap) about affordable health care for all Americans.

We all got swindled. Pointing the finger back and forth does nothing. We all huddle in our corners and fling crap at each other as if each other is the enemy. The true enemy is the rich who have squeezed the life out of the poor and the middle class. Until we wake up and realize that fact...ALL of us...then we're doomed to fight these petty fights until the end of our democracy.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

33,000 pages of regulations

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/how-many-pages-of-regulations-for-obamacare/2013/05/14/61eec914-bcf9-1 1e2-9b09-1638acc3942e_blog.html?utm_term=.bbc6f0f3fa75

Save the read it.

It is designed to be a hidden with twists and turns and surprises.

The "bill" was BS from the start, and yes both the repubs and the dems came up with this.
edit on 18-7-2017 by seasonal because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Ineilio

And Hillary was supposed to win. That would have made the back and forth easy, like dogs and cats.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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The first to die will be the really sick people who will lose their health insurance


Newsflash- our insanely expensive, criminal health care system was killing thousands of people a year before Obamacare and Republicans didn't give a damn. What makes you think they will care now?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Ineilio

Jesus guy, relax. Believe it or not, there are people out there that care about you. Complete strangers. Everything is going to be alright.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

"strangers" stop caring when it is $5,000 for chemo (in the US) one time, plus administering it.

Our system is going to collapse if the clowns we elect do mot get this done.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Ineilio

And Hillary was supposed to win. That would have made the back and forth easy, like dogs and cats.


??? Hillary or Trump or Jeb or Bernie or the Stay Puft Marshmallow man, I don't care. The point isn't who is there as the token figure head. That person is reviled regardless. It's the puppet masters behind the scenes that matter.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Ineilio

Jesus guy, relax. Believe it or not, there are people out there that care about you. Complete strangers. Everything is going to be alright.


I'm fine dude.



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