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President Trump and Republicans are Now in Charge of ObamaCare....THEY OWN IT.

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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How about THIS...

Work with democrats to FIX the easily solvable problems with the ACA??

Did that bright idea not occur to ANYONE




posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: carewemust

POOR, POOR manchild!

Elected leader can't HANDLE the pressure of public office?

I wonder HOW Obama manged 8 years?



Obama didn't take things so personally. Russian hacking was OK. Black murder and unemployment was OK. As long as the golf courses and vacation spots were properly maintained, Obama was happy.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Snarl


Then who's fault will it be when the 15 year old girl in Iowa dies because her life saving treatment can't be paid for next year. Right now, Blue Cross is paying her $1.2 million a month medical bill. On 12/31/2017, Blue Cross is leaving Iowa...and the county where she lives will have no health insurance that people can buy.



It will be the fault of the companies charging 1.2 million dollars a month.
there is no way it costs that much, they're just price gouging because they can. And they can because of this monster of a horrible thing that is insurance.
Which the ACA made worse.

Think about it.
That's almost a quarter million little ceasars pizzas. 8000 pizzas a day.
Do you really think the treatment she gets every day is more effort than what it takes to make 8,000 pizzas?

The money is broken- the medical system doubly so.

Ban insurance, get that cost down to a couple dozen pizzas tops.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Obama didn't have PRIVATE golf course HE owned and PROFITED from by visiting ...

See...TRUMPY can hide nearly every weekend at his OWN privatetly owned golf course...



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Likely, that is easier said than done.
Just like a lot of repubs wouldn't work with Obama, a lot of dems won't work with Trump.

They are all spoiled little brats.

The best solution, is to either make them take the healthcare they arrange for us, or let us have the same healthcare that they get.

That's what people should be demanding. The fact that we all bicker about what side of the isle will screw us less, means they are winning and we are loosing.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: lordcomac

WE ARE NOT HOMES OR CARS.

We are PEOPLE.

Living, breathing, sentient creatures.

WHY on Earth do we insure people and human beings HEALTH



It seems dehumanizing.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
But as it stands now, her parents are thankful that America thinks keeping her alive is worth $1.2 million a month.

It's not often we don't immediately agree on 'the issues' ... but not this time.

It takes me 10 years to earn 1.2 million. If it was one of my own kids ... I would hang my head in sorrow. I cannot imagine that cost recurring _every_ Month.

Maybe, if insurance was made totally illegal, healthcare costs would drop enough. As it is ... it's a racket.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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Obamacare is the steaming turd ALL Democrats voted to pinch out....NO Republicans voted for it.
The move to Repeal and replace it: ALL but a few Republicans and NO Dems supported this.

Dems own it. OVERWHELMINGLY.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: carewemust
But as it stands now, her parents are thankful that America thinks keeping her alive is worth $1.2 million a month.

It's not often we don't immediately agree on 'the issues' ... but not this time.

It takes me 10 years to earn 1.2 million. If it was one of my own kids ... I would hang my head in sorrow. I cannot imagine that cost recurring _every_ Month.

Maybe, if insurance was made totally illegal, healthcare costs would drop enough. As it is ... it's a racket.


Yes indeed! It's a racket. And until we get term limits and make lobbying government servants a crime we will continue our spiral into the cesspool.

We have Insurance Lobbyists AND Health care lobbyists and they are spending a whole ton of money buying their prostitutes/our elected officials to keep their gravy train flowing.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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The insurance companies are going to step in soon and save us.lol

The lobbyist are on the march with boatloads of cash.

The corporate oligarchy isn't going anywhere. Deal with it! It's just capitalism and free enterprise....we don't need no stinkin socialism.
edit on 18-7-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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It's interesting we are just accepting Obamacare as an incoming tragedy. The left is so anxious to see Trump fail they are no longer defending their namesake or offering solutions to improve it. Trump is using a broken system to fix it, but its the correct process. If he pulls out executive orders to do it it would be hung up in the courts at best. I don't fault him for not being able to make congressional republicans get their act together. I don't think he should intervene until necessary. It probably should wait until asked. Trump has a way of motivating people through their defiance tho too, so there's that.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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Obamacare was DOA, it is a failure since it's inception, if kept alive it will be an endless pit of corruption like everything the Feds handle



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Not really. It's unsustainable, but every time you talk about taking something away you're the worst person ever. So, fine. Enjoy the crap show while it lasts.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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Remember.
Obamacare was designed to fail...with a 'sure thang' President Hillary Clinton designed to step in heroically with Single Payer'.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: lordcomac

You are correct. So long as the government hands out money like candy, and people say, "Help Me Live and Help Me stay free form pain... I don't care what it costs!", the medical system will stay broken.

That's not going to be fixed in the next few months. That's where there's a shortage of ideas. How to ensure that everyone who needs private medical insurance on 1.1.2018, going forward..gets it. That's where your horror stories will come from.


edit on 7/18/2017 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12


The insurance companies are going to step in soon and save us.lol

The lobbyist are on the march with boatloads of cash.

The corporate oligarchy isn't going anywhere. Deal with it!




We agree on something. I guess that's a start?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: carewemust

The republicans are cowards.

They are afraid of allowing people to have a choice.



Like keeping the same doctor. Troll, or moron?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Sorry, but the ownership belongs with the republican party and them, alone. If there is 'blame' to be placed on Trump then it is restricted to a failure in bringing that party into line with Trump acknowledged as it's leader.

Then again, many of us knew the Republican Party was Trump's biggest adversary from the beginning. Letting the ACA fail may be his only option at this juncture.


Frankly, it's time for Trump to play the 'third party' card and fully isolate himself from the morons. Trump redefines RHINO and perhaps is the only real one at that!


edit on 18-7-2017 by nwtrucker because: Keyboard dysleksia



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: manuelram16
Obamacare was DOA, it is a failure since it's inception, if kept alive it will be an endless pit of corruption like everything the Feds handle


There's a thread here on ATS from 2 years ago, describing how Republicans really LIKE Obamacare. Thanks for reminding me of that. I'll have to re-scan it.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

The unAffordable Care Act may have President Obama's name attached to it, but the Captain of U.S.S. ObamaCare right now is President Trump.. and the Republican Majority in Congress are his Navigators. U.S.S. ObamaCare is beyond "listing" in the ocean. It is now starting to SINK. The first to die will be the really sick people who will lose their health insurance on 12/31/2017.

Democrats and the Liberal Media will place the human carnage squarely on the backs of the Trump administration, and the Republican-led Congress. AND THEY WILL BE RIGHT...unfortunately. I think President Trump knows this. He shouldn't play a high-stakes game of "chicken" with Democrats, when American lives are at stake.


No, they won't be right. Obamacare is aptly named, a creation of the Democrats. If it's so damned good, as the Democrats claim, then leave it alone to bask in its greatness. Why does the GOP have to "fix" it if it's so great? They tried and failed, so the whole things is now pure Obamacare, the nightmare creation of the Democrats that the GOP wasn't even allowed to vote on.



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