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The transgender con ? Many transgender regret switch

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

Thank you for posting. You are quite brave to do it on this basically "alt-right" site.

I know several trans people, and none of them regret their transition. Their only source of pain comes from the narrow-minded family, friends and co-workers who refuse to accept them.




posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:04 AM
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This is why I disagree with children being allowed to start the transition with the hormone meds at ages as early as 11.


It's becoming such a fad.

Although some people might really need the change, not all really know what they're in for .

Bruce Jenner has no regrets. Let's see how he feels in 5 years. He won't admit it though. Would be great if he would become an advocate for regret though. Need somebody famous to do that so that can catch on instead

edit on 18-7-2017 by violet because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:08 AM
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I call BS, being Transgender myself I have numerous friends within the community and EVERY single person I know that has had that surgery has expressed nothing but happiness and contentment. So I do not know where they are getting there numbers for this "study" but they certainly do not reflect the real world numbers from my personal experience. Then again what do I know, it's not like I myself am Trans. I personally have had breast augmentation and a brazillian butt lift and I love my new curves. The only thing I can think of that might cause someone to have regret is if they are one of the few patients that experience negative side affects such as the rare instances where you lose feeling in your nerves down there. That is rare though and shouldn't be an issue if your Doctor has plenty of experience performing the surgery. I personally plan on having mine done in Thailand where the world's leading Dr on this surgery practices. Again stop spreading lies based on confirmation bias.

Anyone who cares for actual real world experience in this matter can ask me directly via PM, the OP has no real world experience or understanding of this issue and is all too happy to present biased information that supports there own contempt for my community.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: violet

Children aren't given hormones at 11.

Caitlyn Jenner said she was always unhappy as a man, so good luck with the whole "regret" thing.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:23 AM
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Maybe if there wasn't so much stigmatizing and abuse to those who wish to dress and act or live as the opposite sex some would decide there was no need for surgery?

Maybe some feel the only way to stop the hatred is to physically become the opposite sex?

Some.

I have never felt the desire or need to become the opposite sex to what I was born, so I can't imagine the emotions one would have.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:31 AM
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a reply to: testingtesting


Like the old song says "You don't know what you got till its gone"



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:54 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv
Well I've seen some cases where the child was THAT young amd we will see if Caitlyn finds true happiness . So far she just seems to be all about the new wardrobe, photo shoots and makeup she gets to dress up in. Material girl now. Those things tend to fade and become less important, but if that's what makes her happy, it's her business.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: violet

No. There are No cases where an 11 year old received hormones. Hormone blockers, maybe, but those are totally reversible. Hormone blockers are not new and have been given to kids for years to stall early on-set puberty at ages as young as 7.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 06:37 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: testingtesting
I thought you were going to live and let live.
Reading into the source site also...nah.

mediabiasfactcheck.com...

Displays right wing bias in reporting and does not always follow the consensus of science.



I suggest to stop the circle of hate and live and let live.

Also what happened to your possessed by demons theory?.


Putting words into my posts again ? I said in some cases we have to agree to disagree.

I just wanted to point out the dangers there may be with transitioning, and this arcticle really hit me hard.



No, you wanted to push an agenda that is devoid of science because the Powah Uv Jeezuss compels you to act like anything BUT a Christian while you spread lies and disinformation because you think that treatment of transgendered as subhuman is showing them compassion. Should I start quoting your posts in the other thread thatnyu deeailed with your bigotry? You know, the one where you admit that refused to read scientific, peer reviewed papers? And then cried "Christian Persecution"? I'm happy to repeat what I said there... you're a bigot and a coward parading as a Christian and hiding behind a bible to cover up your true feelings. And just like that thread, you're using nothing but confirmation bias to push an agenda. Please cite the alleged polls and any scientific data that you believe supports your thesis. A single blog style hit piece by a right wing crapfest is just that... a crap fest. Your "Arricle" and I'm using that term verrrry loosely, doesn't provide any citations to support its contentions. But hey... if supports your view that it's OK to treat other people as less than you so let's run with! Go Team Jeezus



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 06:57 AM
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While I think many people are not genuinely meant to be the other sex, it seems that a few people seem to naturally fit the part (of the other sex).



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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Yet another day, yet another transphobic hit-piece on ATS.



Original source is extremely bias. And it's alleging things that are simply untrue. Sorry OP.

Try going and meeting some actual trans people. I think you might find it genuinely enlightening.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:35 AM
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I could understand that a few people might encounter this unfortunate scenario. I see that cosmetic surgeries were mentioned as well, (& yes I know it's not quite a big of a deal as a sex reassignment surgery) and I actually ended up not going through with one due to the amount of women (although I thought they looked beautiful after surgery) Were incredibly depressed with their choice afterwards. So sure, I believe there are some out there who do and will regret their sex changes, but I wouldn't say that it's all hogwash and made up by drs. Some people regardless of their sexual or gender identity struggles, have basic identity struggles as well....Who am I? Who do I want to be? Who do I desire to be? HOW can I be what and who I want......... SO many things to consider, we are such complex beings after all.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: Sheye

This is why surgeons should never do this to children under 16, let alone anyone else. how do the parents of these children feel once this operation is complete?

poor children being totally brainwashed, manipulated and groomed from an early age.

This has to stop.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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Gotta say it's hard to take a preacher serious when he's talking about conning people. Maybe the sex change surgeons are cutting in on his profits.

Regardless of whether it's mental or physical trans people are weird.
That's never going to change, but there's plenty of options for them to feel better about themselves and I don't see how that's a problem.

But if the goal is to try and normalise it then trans people will never be accepted.

Just like with all movements it can only be successful if it's about embracing the differences.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
I call BS, being Transgender myself I have numerous friends within the community and EVERY single person I know that has had that surgery has expressed nothing but happiness and contentment. So I do not know where they are getting there numbers for this "study" but they certainly do not reflect the real world numbers from my personal experience. Then again what do I know, it's not like I myself am Trans. I personally have had breast augmentation and a brazillian butt lift and I love my new curves. The only thing I can think of that might cause someone to have regret is if they are one of the few patients that experience negative side affects such as the rare instances where you lose feeling in your nerves down there. That is rare though and shouldn't be an issue if your Doctor has plenty of experience performing the surgery. I personally plan on having mine done in Thailand where the world's leading Dr on this surgery practices. Again stop spreading lies based on confirmation bias.

Anyone who cares for actual real world experience in this matter can ask me directly via PM, the OP has no real world experience or understanding of this issue and is all too happy to present biased information that supports there own contempt for my community.


You are doing exactly what the arcticle states happens within transgender community. Deny , deny,deny and suppress the truth from getting out. I don't think deep down you are happy either Rainbowphoenix ,but would never admit to such .

I'll admit I don't know many transgendered personally , but I 'm going to link another arcticle soon , that further discusses regret.

It is sad the transgendered people I have met ( briefly in a pub ) were into fooling others they were actually women with vaginas. If you can be brave enough to transition... you can be brave enough to tell others your bits and pieces aren't the dame as other women, and not wait until they are sexually aroused and starting to fool around woth you.

Some guy I know , who this happened to, said some transgender get off on fooling people without telling them the whole truth about themselves. You said you are always upfront RainbowPhoenix, which I commend you for , but that isn't always the case with all transgendered.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Sheye

I think deep down, most Christians are very unhappy and regret their decision to be Christians, but will deny, deny, deny it to keep it hidden.

See how that works?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Yet another day, yet another transphobic hit-piece on ATS.



Original source is extremely bias. And it's alleging things that are simply untrue. Sorry OP.

Try going and meeting some actual trans people. I think you might find it genuinely enlightening.


Thats what you people always claim.. biased info .. then you shove biased scientific research unto us hoping to change our minds. These are real transgendered with real deeply felt regrets, to the point of suicide, in some cases.

If this thread can make just one parent or trans think about their choices a little more, than its done its job.
One more excerpt..




Sadly, the consequences of this ignorance can be irreparable. Just ask Paul Rowe, who now regrets his 1989 genital-mutilation surgery. Feeling stuck in limbo, he’d like to be his old self again but says it’s fruitless. “I can never become a complete man again,” he laments. “There's no turning back." And no one knows this better than the original poster boy for ground-breaking “transgenderism,” tennis player Dr. Richard Raskind. Better known by the name he assumed after genital-mutilation surgery in 1975, “Renee Richards,” the physician is quoted as saying in “The Liaison Legacy,” Tennis Magazine, March 1999, “I get a lot of inquiries from would-be transsexuals, but I don’t want anyone to hold me out as an example to follow.… As far as being fulfilled as a woman, I’m not as fulfilled as I dreamed of being. I get a lot of letters from people who are considering having this operation … and I discourage them all.”



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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A sensitive subject which I have my opinions on but not enough time to debate. However I do find this interesting:


“The transgender lobby actively polices and suppresses discussion of sex-change regret, and claims it’s rare (no more than “5 percent.”) [sic]. However, if you do decide to ‘de-transition’ to once again identify with the sex in your DNA, talking about it will get you targeted by trans activists.” This is reminiscent of how the homosexual lobby has viciously attacked grown children of same-sex couples all because these people now oppose same-sex child-rearing, which The New American reported on earlier this month.

I would like to see some evidence of this. I won't lie, I'm motivated to join a LGBT forum and claim I regret my decisions - but I know this is messing with people's emotions so I'll hold off.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Sheye

I think deep down, most Christians are very unhappy and regret their decision to be Christians, but will deny, deny, deny it to keep it hidden.

See how that works?


Christians can change their minds ... they don't have to deal with deep remorse over body mutilation.

See how that works ?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Sheye

I think deep down, most Christians are very unhappy and regret their decision to be Christians, but will deny, deny, deny it to keep it hidden.

See how that works?


Christians can change their minds ... they don't have to deal with deep remorse over body mutilation.

See how that works ?


But that would make the religion look bad, so the Christian organizations hide it.

As a matter of fact, I think you are very unhappy being a Christian, but you are being forced to suppress it by the Christian community.



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